Selling my 2025 TRD Pro for a 2027 Ram RHO?

[zgreen]

It’s not a model problem it’s a Stellantis quality problem and It appears the RHO’s are plagued with the same issues that I mentioned.
If you want long term reliability you’re not going to find it in a Ram the only thing you will find is headache after headache. Be prepared for high maintenance bills and lots of repairs, around 40-60,000 miles these things literally start falling apart.

Thanks again. I've worked through a bunch of Ram and RHO forums and I'm not seeing a whole lot of major issues at the moment, but I will keep looking for sure. Also, if I move forward, I would definitely get their top warranty, just like I did with the Pro. Thanks again and have a good one!

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[PdlMnk]

I just sold my 2020 Ram Rebel fully loaded for my TRD ORP Hybrid. not because I didn't absolutely love that truck. in fact, it was the best truck I've ever owned. But I started having back problems (for over a year now)and I wasn't using the truck like a truck anymore.

I will always be a truck guy first, but things change. I love my 4Runner, but I miss my truck.

BTW, zero issues on my truck. Ran amazing, luxurious, tons of storage. Tons of leg room, etc...

You can't go wrong either way, just depends on your wants and needs.

 

[zgreen]

I just sold my 2020 Ram Rebel fully loaded for my TRD ORP Hybrid. not because I didn't absolutely love that truck. in fact, it was the best truck I've ever owned. But I started having back problems (for over a year now)and I wasn't using the truck like a truck anymore.

I will always be a truck guy first, but things change. I love my 4Runner, but I miss my truck.

BTW, zero issues on my truck. Ran amazing, luxurious, tons of storage. Tons of leg room, etc...

You can't go wrong either way, just depends on your wants and needs.

Thanks PDL, appreciate it. If I do it, it will be my first truck. I live top in NW Montana and think it could suit my lifestyle a bit better and was pretty blown away by the interior. But, there seems to be issues here and there, like any brand. I have found that the car dealers in my area up here are pretty good at making sure things are right and will work with you to ensure it. Little different in small towns! Thanks again for your thoughts and sorry about your back! Hope you're enjoying your TRD ORP.

 

[josiahg52]

Hey Josiah. That's why there are so many different options out there. What doesn't work for you, could work for me or someone else. It's all good and thank you for your thoughts. Glad you love the Pro as well. It's such a great one. Have a good rest of the day.

For sure. I'm saying if you want it, get it, but there's as much reason not too, really.

I have a 2018 Ram and it's a pain in the ass. Emissions issues, brake issues, random sensor issues, waaaaaay worse than either of my BMWs, way more miles on them, too. Extended warranty has been useless. Some of the problems existed under the original 3/36 and after years of shop time, dozens of visits, no remedy.

 

[pmedicj]

Thanks again. I've worked through a bunch of Ram and RHO forums and I'm not seeing a whole lot of major issues at the moment, but I will keep looking for sure. Also, if I move forward, I would definitely get their top warranty, just like I did with the Pro. Thanks again and have a good one!

I don’t know what research you did but a quick google search turns up a lot of problems. The only positives I see are from die hard mopar fan boys.
I had the top warranty and couldn’t get my heater core fixed in the middle of winter with only 3,000 miles on it. (The Heater core design remains unchanged across all the models and is a known problem)
It looks like you made up your mind or are heavily leaning towards wanting to believe this purchase will be rewarding. That’s ok, folks tried to talk me out of my purchase too but I, like you wanted to believe.

 

[Joe Dirt]

I will chime in, I would say keep what you got and enjoy it.

Go rent one of those Rams or a similarity to that model for a few days, get the insurance and beat the crap out of it and see if you like it.

I use my non hybrid orp as a truck to do my home improvements and haul things around.
I like the added security.

Having a truck; it's just a lot harder to get stuff in and out of the bed. And you better have it covered.
Just my two cents here

 

[JCinNC]

If you haven’t already, look up TRDJon on YouTube. He’s a Toyota guy who’s had Tundras, Tacomas, Land Cruisers and 4Runners - old and newer models…he just got the RHO several months ago and he has a bunch of videos on his experience.

 

[pmedicj]

I just read on the forums there is no oil dipstick to check engine oil, it relies on an electronic sensor that occasionally has problems accurately reading due to known glitches in the software and you have to physically take the truck in to get it fixed.
Along with several mopar technicians that say the hurricane is a complete abomination to work on.
Good luck on your decision but coming from someone that has had a handful of Chrysler products that all had issues and repair problems, I can say with certainty I will never buy another Chrysler product.

 

[ThatSickRIp]

Between Ram and all the electronic issues popping up in this thread, it sure makes all the "doom and gloom" of the 4R going to a turbo 4 a non issue

 

[z@ck@tt@ck]

As the title says, I’m thinking about selling my 2025 TRD Pro I got in April of last year and getting a 2027 Ram RHO. Would love any and all thoughts, so don't hold back!

Here’s my reasoning. I love the Pro, but there are a few nit picky things here and there. There are a few rattles that have proved stubborn to fix, it would be great to have a bit of a bigger gas tank (love the other thread on this subject), the wind noise is a bit annoying, the road noise is there as well, and I thought I was going to do more trails, camping, etc., but I really haven’t. Most of my driving is highway, around town, winter driving, gravel/forest roads, road trips and some towing. But, even with those little things, I love it, and I would be happy to keep owning it for years to come.

But, right now the Pros are really holding their value. KBB is saying my private party value is $73,800 and the trade-in is $68,500. I know those are just numbers, and the market will tell, but KBB seems to be pretty accurate. And, while I know I won’t get the cost back on the full XPEL Stealth PPF, ceramic and tint package (a $10k+ package in the U.S.), CBI Rock sliders, all the little things here and there, and the transferable Toyota 10-year/100,000-mile extended warranty, I think they make mine pretty attractive at the upper end of the market. I have 17,500 miles on it now and there isn’t a used Pro in the state of Montana or really within 300 miles of where I am. So, someone could get a beautifully maintained Pro, with full XPEL Stealth PPF and CBI Rock sliders for far less than it would cost to buy new. I could potentially sell it for more than I paid for it, and throw in the PPF, etc. The numbers look decent and with current supply also looking pretty constrained for the next month or two, I don’t see that hurting resale in the near term.

As for the RHO, it is big, fast and expensive, but super solid, commands the road and is very plush on the inside with the Level 1 package. It’s enormous, but I was shocked by how well it drove and rode. It really didn’t feel like I was driving a full-size truck at all and the suspension set up is crazy. I was also blown away by how quiet it was inside. There was virtually no road noise and at 70, the wind noise was at least half of what the Pro is. As for pricing, if you look hard enough, there are dealers around selling the new ’27s for up to $11k off sticker. Not a bad deal. Yes, the gas mileage isn’t the best, but people seeem to be getting around 16 mpg average, so depending on how you drive your 4Runner, it’s not that much worse, and it has a 33-gallon fuel tank.

So looking at the numbers, with the equity I have in the Pro, I could put $15k down on the RHO, keep a decent chunk of cash, and my payment would be just about the same. It seems like a pretty interesting proposition...

I’d love to hear anyone thoughts, so bring it and let me have it! Thanks!

 

[z@ck@tt@ck]

I just recently purchased a TRD ORP (love the shit out of it!) and was also considering pretty much the same Ram you're describing. The biggest deciding factor for me was resale value and reliability. Dodge trucks (except for diesels) lose a lot of value as soon as you drive them off the lot. That really bothered me when the time comes to sell or trade it in. Also the quality is much lower, and the cost of ownership much higher then Toyota. Another thing I learned is the new hurricane engine sounds terrible with an exhaust. Watch some videos.. Sounds like an angry weed eater!

I'm a mechanic and work on a lot of Chrysler products. They're overall garbage compared to Toyota.

 

[NotApplicable]

I thought I was going to do more trails, camping, etc.

Honestly, this is probably true of most purchasers of adventure/off-road focused vehicles and trims. The amount of people driving around with vehicles that are optimized for something they rarely (if ever) do is massive. And the penalties they're paying are real. In ride quality, efficiency, NVH, on-road performance, etc.

Following the same logic, though... what exactly do you think you're going to use the specific qualities of this full-size truck for? Do you routinely tow > 6000 lbs? Do you routinely haul large amounts of cargo? Or, could you potentially be doing the same thing all over again and buying a vehicle optimized for a purpose you simply don't have?

Buy the vehicle that fits your _actual_ needs and wants the best. Most would be best suited by an "all-rounder." I personally think the best all-rounders are wagons, but those are largely non-existent in the US, so that leaves CUVs.

 

[britchic]

I had a 2019, 2500 Ram Laramie since new, I LOVED that truck, but you would not believe the amount of problems I had with it - especially electrical & once it reached a certain mileage the transmission, DEF problems etc. BUT would I get one again? Maybe. I really think it depends a lot on the dealership as well. The one I used couldn't give 2 fucks about the problems. They were rude every time I took the truck in even though I had full warranty. They'd say they fixed something, I'd get it back & the same issue arose again. This happened so many times that I probably should have lemon lawed it but, but they kept trying to fix until warranty ran out & then nothing. Stellantis were useless as well, they wouldn't let me talk to anyone past customer service so I just kept going round in circles. After spending probably $25k on trying to fix everything, I traded in for my 4Runner and the relief not having to worry about something going wrong has been amazing. But after everything, I'm still looking into a truck so I can pull a bigger RV - the Tundra's are looking really tempting though now I know the Toyota quality lol

 

[Wandering Sagebrush]

IMO, you’re making a mistake. That said, do what your heart tells you to do.

 

[josiahg52]

I had a 2019, 2500 Ram Laramie since new, I LOVED that truck, but you would not believe the amount of problems I had with it - especially electrical & once it reached a certain mileage the transmission, DEF problems etc. BUT would I get one again? Maybe. I really think it depends a lot on the dealership as well. The one I used couldn't give 2 fucks about the problems. They were rude every time I took the truck in even though I had full warranty. They'd say they fixed something, I'd get it back & the same issue arose again. This happened so many times that I probably should have lemon lawed it but, but they kept trying to fix until warranty ran out & then nothing. Stellantis were useless as well, they wouldn't let me talk to anyone past customer service so I just kept going round in circles. After spending probably $25k on trying to fix everything, I traded in for my 4Runner and the relief not having to worry about something going wrong has been amazing. But after everything, I'm still looking into a truck so I can pull a bigger RV - the Tundra's are looking really tempting though now I know the Toyota quality lol

Wow, this sounds like my exact experience.

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