Crossbar wind noise?

[FoozGrind]

Sorry th

Video shows them installed both ways at different times.

Initially the lip is in front, then at the end you have the lip in back. (as far as one can tell, since the video does not actually show this clearly)

Along the way you say "I tried it both ways and in the end I just installed them according to the directions." Well that is super useful. The directions do not say. The only pictures that show the front sticker are zoomed in enough that it does not show which way is the front of the vehicle.

Do you mean the extra directions you had the dealer print? We don't have those and the video does not show them.

So, it's a nice video in most ways, but this whole thread is about a specific question, and the video does not answer it.

Sorry Should have clarified this isn’t my video. I am trying to find out the proper way to have it installed so I was googling it. Right now my front one lip faces front and so does my rear I haven’t looked at the instructions to see what it says about the front label

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[bkw777]

notch/lip sides facing each other

Now that is a plausible way too. It's not automatically crazy.

I have the sheet that comes with the bars and it does not disambiguate this. All the drawings are either zoomed in so you can't tell which way is the front of the vehicle, or zoomed out and does not show the FRONT sticker.

They do show the load capacity warning stickers which are on the rear of the vehicle on both bars. But I removed those stickers so I can't go by them. Are they on the same side on both bars? The drawings may simply not be meant to be a reference for this specific detail, considering how small and blurry that detail is in those drawings.

There is a pretty clear looking picture in this brochure pdf
https://www.toyota.com/content/dam/...essories/MY25_4Runner_Accessory_Ebrochure.pdf

It sure looks like the lip is in the front on both bars, and thatr IS the way mine came pre-installed from the dealer. I thought it was backwards but now this pdf adds weight to the lip-forward theory.

This is kind of ridiculous!

They make the part directional instead of symmetrical, and then give only ambiguous and contradicory hints as to which direction is which.

Just make the damned things symmetrical so it doesn't matter, or put a damned arrow somewhere. They have a word "FRONT", but it's written in a place and a direction that makes it essentially useless (as far as I can tell now, the way Iinterpret it might be exactly backwards from what they intended). Similarly, they have parts marked LH and RH but do not say which side is the right or left side! There is no "right" or "left" side of a vehicle since you could be looking at any side of the vehicle. That is why ships have "port" and "starbord", and cars have "driver" & "passenger" instead.

I just scanned my instruction sheet and attached it for reference. (as in negative reference, to show what it does not show).

 

[bkw777]

Sorry th

Sorry Should have clarified this isn’t my video. I am trying to find out the proper way to have it installed so I was googling it. Right now my front one lip faces front and so does my rear I haven’t looked at the instructions to see what it says about the front label

hah sorry no prob, apologize for that.

 

[TRD Pro or Die Trying]

Now that is a plausible way too. It's not automatically crazy.

I have the sheet that comes with the bars and it does not disambiguate this. All the drawings are either zoomed in so you can't tell which way is the front of the vehicle, or zoomed out and does not show the FRONT sticker.


They do show the load capacity warning stickers which are on the rear of the vehicle on both bars. But I removed those stickers so I can't go by them. Are they on the same side on both bars? The drawings may simply not be meant to be a reference for this specific detail, considering how small and blurry that detail is in those drawings.

There is a pretty clear looking picture in this brochure pdf
https://www.toyota.com/content/dam/...essories/MY25_4Runner_Accessory_Ebrochure.pdf

It sure looks like the lip is in the front on both bars, and thatr IS the way mine came pre-installed from the dealer. I thought it was backwards but now this pdf adds weight to the lip-forward theory.

This is kind of ridiculous!

We're all a bunch of 4Runner enthusiasts and still can't figure out which way they go, so no one is going to be looking at our cross bars and saying, "That dumbass has his cross bars on backwards." My vote would be for both lips facing forward.

 

[MikeD]

There is a pretty clear looking picture in this brochure pdf
https://www.toyota.com/content/dam/...essories/MY25_4Runner_Accessory_Ebrochure.pdf
It sure looks like the lip is in the front on both bars, and thatr IS the way mine came pre-installed from the dealer. I thought it was backwards but now this pdf adds weight to the lip-forward theory.
This is kind of ridiculous!

Holy crap - you are correct about the brochure photos. Sure looks like notches to the front...
OTOH - I don't really hear any significant noise that seems to be coming from the bars - even with the moonroof open.
But now I have to find those instructions and check WTH I was thinking when I installed.
Concur on ridiculous. :>)

 

[FoozGrind]

Guess it settles it?

 

[MikeD]

FWIW: I popped off the passenger side front cover to find this "front" label that I clearly thought meant that (beveled/lipless) edge went to the front. And the cover has the RH inside - which made sense to me as being the passenger side.
So I continue to think that what I did makes sense ... but the rear covers did not want to easily pop off so I'm giving up for now and going to assume it doesn't really matter. :>)
(POSSIBLE evidence against my installation is that the load warning stickers face the opposite way on the two bars - front bar the warning would be rad from the front (facing the rear of the vehicle). Opposite for the load warning stickers on the back rail. Honestly I'm not sure this is conclusive of anything..)

 

[Everybodyduck]

You folks are making me feel better about having a roof rack and increasing the volume. My problem with wind noise is related to my wanting to drive 80 mph all the time.

 

[6GRunner]

Any pics when you get a chance ?

Here is a link to pics I posted a while ago. Nothing specific to the rails, cross bars, or wind noise, though….

https://www.4runner6g.com/forum/threads/my-underground-off-road-premium-hybrid-4runner-build.4951/

 

[808runner]

Kinda late to this party, but can confirm that lip should face front and smooth side facing rear. When I realized that smooth sides were facing rear from dealer, I thought they put it backwards, so moved it around and....dang, obvious wind noise! Put it back with lips facing front and no noise.

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