6th Gen Owners: What's one thing you'd change about the Truck?

[pistol]

Has anyone figured out how to bypass the hatch not opening with the rear window rolled down?

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[bakutheleo]

Has anyone figured out how to bypass the hatch not opening with the rear window rolled down?

I hope someone has an answer to this! I cannot imagine why it is configured this way--makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

[mfoga]

I hope someone has an answer to this! I cannot imagine why it is configured this way--makes absolutely no sense to me.

My best guess is physics. You move more weight to end of a lever it requires more force to move the lever. This is probably to protect the motors that operate the liftgate.

 

[PdlMnk]

The placement of the middle cup holders aren't ideal. They need to be closer to the dash somehow, maybe even only 6 inches or so. That's my biggest complaint. I'm also coming from a 2020 Ram 1500, which had a crazy amount of room and storage for everything, so I might be biased.

 

[josiahg52]

That is the way it works. I changed mine in settings so that touching the door (or passenger) handle unlocks all doors on first touch, but the default is driver only, hold for all. I rarely use the fob, but I am pretty sure the default is once for driver, then again for all (at least that is what it is for our RAV4 and other vehicles I have driven).

With further experimentation, I did find the handle does indeed work the way i expected. I will assume the buttons will, too.

 

[josiahg52]

I woild prefer that the criise control +/- buttons were two stage. First stage, 1mph change, second stage 5mph change.

 

[PdlMnk]

OK, first time using the sun visor to the side. It really is a terrible design. The sun visor hits the roof liner before making it all the way over and the pull out plastic extender is too tiny. The whole thing sits at an angle and some sun gets through.

 

[Dead Horse]

I woild prefer that the criise control +/- buttons were two stage. First stage, 1mph change, second stage 5mph change.

I like the way my wife's car does it. Tapping it increases/decreases by 1mph, holding it makes it jump in 5mph increments. It's perfect.

I ain't mad about the 4Runner's setup, but 5mph jumps is better than just rolling the number faster.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

In my most recent test drive (still waiting for my allocation to arrive), I figured out that you cannot have the driver seat all the way back (I am tall and need to do this) and have the rear seat on the driver's side all the way "tumbled up." This is so far the most notable design "flaw" that I've seen on the 4Runner. You can mostly get it tumbled up, but it presses against the back of the driver's seat so that it is like an extra (unwanted) lumbar support that you can feel every time you go over a bump, and this is probably not at all good for the seat and motor over time. We figured out that, realistically, I will need to have the rear seat behind me only partially folded on longer trips or get used to less leg room by having the driver's seat forward of its full back position. There must be some kind of physics reason for the rear seat position and design (e.g. suspension?). It's difficult to believe they didn't realize this when they configured its current design. I'm glad I realized this before buying a 4Runner so I know I am going in with my eyes wide open on the compromises I will need to make, rather than buying it and then realizing it afterwards, which would have introduced possible regret.

If anyone has ideas about how to address this limitation, I'd love to get your thoughts.

 

[sstarrx2]

Interesting. I am in Southern California, so definitely experience bumper to bumper and parking lots a fair amount--but even in those circumstances, in ECO all the time, I have not noticed any issue. Maybe the hybrid system helps?

Actually after reading your reply, I decided to try out ECO mode because in 9 months of ownership, I have never done so. Yes, running it in ECO mode eliminates the low speed gear searching that I have in the regular mode. I guess I will be using ECO mode unless I am on the interstate or other high speed roads. Having said that if I cannot just leave it in one mode for all driving it would have been nice to be able to change modes from the steering wheel, like on a Porsche. Toyota should tune that tranny to run well in all modes. It is just software mapping. I do not mind ECO, but it is a little bit toothless in that mode....but very smooth.

 

[EricGoleta]

1) Better gas mileage, even driving conservatively I have never gotten 23 mpg. Near impossible to stay in 'electric mode' at slow speeds. But love the torque when off road
2) Fold flat back seat. The strap tether to secure the seats is a real joke
3) The 14" display is absolutely great for maps apps. But beside that, Toyota does not use the screen space at all. What poor software architecture planning and implementation. A huge miss.
4) More tie down locations in back. Would be nice tie downs under driver and passenger seat to secure loads on the back seat. You loose too much space when folding down the rear seats, I never fold the seats, and use a net to hold gear on the seats.
5) They should have installed on ORPs with 17" wheels, not 18". I'll be dumping my 18" as soon as I use the stock tires a little more before replacing them.
6) Larger cup holders in the doors. They are too small in diameter to be useful.
7) Too many beeps for this and that...

But overall, I love my ORP and am so happy that I bought it. It is a pleasure to drive.

 

[bakutheleo]

1) Better gas mileage, even driving conservatively I have never gotten 23 mpg. Near impossible to stay in 'electric mode' at slow speeds. But love the torque when off road
2) Fold flat back seat. The strap tether to secure the seats is a real joke
3) The 14" display is absolutely great for maps apps. But beside that, Toyota does not use the screen space at all. What poor software architecture planning and implementation. A huge miss.
4) More tie down locations in back. Would be nice tie downs under driver and passenger seat to secure loads on the back seat. You loose too much space when folding down the rear seats, I never fold the seats, and use a net to hold gear on the seats.
5) They should have installed on ORPs with 17" wheels, not 18". I'll be dumping my 18" as soon as I use the stock tires a little more before replacing them.
6) Larger cup holders in the doors. They are too small in diameter to be useful.
7) Too many beeps for this and that...

But overall, I love my ORP and am so happy that I bought it. It is a pleasure to drive.

1. I find it interesting the varying MPG numbers. It appears that Pro and Trailhunter may generally experience less, but I also hear ORP and others giving poor numbers. Over 17,000+ miles I average between 23 and 24 MPG (not counting actual off-road travel).
2. I think almost everyone agrees with the fold flat part! The tethers do seem a bit odd, but then again they are simple and work well. So, they do not bother me.
3. It could be improved, although I do not find its layout terrible.
4. Yeah, big time. Same comment on about every vehicle I have ever had. My old Sienna only had a couple, and they were in the wrong place. Seems like this should be easy to do. Even a few hooks would help just to loop bag handles through to keep them from sliding forward would help (like for simple shopping bags). THat reminds me, I need to grab a few d-rings from my garage to put in the car--that may at least help for some things like said shopping bags.
5. Yeah, seems an odd decision for something specifically designated "off-road." Maybe figured most people would still be on road the vast majority of the time (which is probably true; it is with me).
6. I do not really care about larger for the front doors--or even necessarily having any in the door, as the console ones are fine. But, I do wish they did not put it in the middle of the space. Why not at one end to make the rest of the space more usable? Or even removable--either a full insert or just a slide-in divider for a cup. For the rear cup holders I would agree though.
7. The only beep I really find objectionable (that I cannot disable) is the silly "you left the key in your pocket like we tell you to do" when I shut any door. It does not even matter if one door is still open, it beeps. I found just today that even includes the hatch. Completely useless warning, and it has to beep 8 (!) times. If it just beeped once, or maybe twice, that would at least be better. But still pretty useless. At least let us turn it off (without the dealer, although even they apparently cannot turn that one off).
8. You did not mention this, but somewhat related to #7. Is there some reason they cannot let the owner change *all* the settings that can be changed? I mean, why should there even be a column for "Only the dealer can change this setting" in customization?

All fairly minor gripes though, I still really like it.

 

[Steveg203]

Along with a handful of things already mentioned, I’ve felt like the air conditioner is lack luster since I bought the car.

I guess it does a decent job bringing the overall temperature down and the air at the vent is cold but I have to have it full blast to feel it blowing on my face. Personally think it’s due to how massive the vents are, they probably move the same amount of air but not forcefully.

Our Subaru feels like it’ll blow my hat off at 3/4 power so perhaps just what we were used to.

I find the Air conditioning to be excellent. In my 4 Runner it freezes me out.

 

[josiahg52]

I'm early in ownership, VERY early. Round trip to work, 43 miles average 21.8 mpg according the OBC and 47 miles and 22.2 mpg on the way back. 2026 Trailhunter. This is the OBC now, we'll see what it all averages out to but I'm very pleased so far.

These were trip averages. Overall, 19.8 mpg by OBC so far.

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