My first 200+mi trip, computer read 26.5 (2 adults, 1 kid)1) Better gas mileage, even driving conservatively I have never gotten 23 mpg. Near impossible to stay in 'electric mode' at slow speeds. But love the torque when off road
Not to turn this into MPG discussion but I used to be semi dissatisfied with the MPG performance but around 5,000 miles we did a trip from Upstate SC to Marathon, FL. Mostly interstate driving (~75mph) with a fully loaded cargo area and logged around 22 MPG on the way down. During the week while in the Keys, logged 24.5 MPG. I’m in a stock TRD Pro and I’m quite satisfied with that. I’ve just found that driving conditions matter a lot. I’m getting low 19 MPG on a tank of daily commuting (10 miles one way with a mix of interstate and secondary roads) and weekend errand running. The Upstate is hilly, congested and littered with 4 way stops/ poorly timed traffic lights.
The connectivity issues is my biggest gripe so far , and its not isolated to the 4R, the Old Ladys LC does the same.
Same. I'm over six feet tall. The front seats have to be so far back as to inhibit folding the rear seat backs down, I don't see how one would drive in that position. I didn't try tumbling them forward, but for me, I'll probably never do that. Folding the backs forward results in a near flat cargo area, probably because of the raised hybrid cargo platform.
Like, how? I get no nanny warnings about any of these things. There are sign indicators that show up, but they're signs like, pedestrian crossing signs, speed signs, stop signs, yield signs, etc., and they're quite small and there is no associated sound. The seat belt warning stops chiming after 30 seconds or and then there's a tiny seatbelt guy in the lower part of the cluster. I'm quite impressed with the connectivity, too. Android Auto takes about 10 seconds to load, if I used it last. Some of UI choices Google has made are annoying, but it works. Most of the time, I'm using standard Bluetooth and it's been working fine. Lane keeping is respectable, so far. It's annoying (in every vehicle) in that it takes control, but it works and I have it on max sensitivity right now.
With all due respect, you are over 6 feet tall, but are you just shy of 6'5" (like I am)? That might make a significant difference. Having the driver's seat in the furthest back position is absolutely something Toyota intended its buyers to be able to do (and something I have always done in every SUV I've owned)--otherwise, why would they have that position available in the design? Also, folding the back of the rear seats down does not create any problem at all. You can have the driver's seat all the way back with the backs of the seats folded and it doesn't create a problem. The problem happens ONLY when you tumble the seat forward (which I want to do to have as much room as I can for my two big, full-sized Collie dogs). I also do not want a hybrid (I mean I do, but there are reasons I don't). I don't want the extra load-in height and loss of cargo area height, especially for my dogs, with or without some kind of trailer step. I also don't want to deal with the weight limit for the hybrids in the cargo area. If I were open to a hybrid, I'd be looking at a Land Cruiser, which has more headroom than the 4Runner, but I also like the way a 4Runner looks much better than the Land Cruiser.
Yes, the seat can be adjusted that far, but I've owned Tahoes, Suburbans, X5s, numerous vehicles, even sedans, and it's the same. Maybe it hasn't been this way on every 4Runner, but I don't think it's necessarily a 4Runner issue. I'm about 6'4" on my feet, closer to 6'5" in my boots.
What's the same? Do all those other vehicles have tumble forward back seats that push up against the front seat when the front seat is in its rear-most position? I've never owned those vehicles. Or, are you saying there are many vehicles in addition to the 4Runner where the manufacturer didn't intend the driver use the rear-most position? Also, so you're 6'4" and you keep your seat forward of the rear-most position? Don't you want the extra leg room? I can see doing that in a German sports car (I have an Audi right now and in that car I don't always have it in the rear-most position because it can be hard to reach the dash with my hands and steering can be fatiguing in that position), but I've owned two Highlanders, Crown Signia, Honda CR-V and Element, and used the rear most position in all those vehicles, and in some of them would have preferred if I could have pushed the seat further back than was possible. The leg room in the 4Runner is just okay (acceptable but not great) in the rear-most position. Maybe about the same as it is in most mid-sized SUVs.
I think in the M5, I have the seat all the way back. All the way back in the 4Runner, for me, is waaaaay too far back to drive and operate comfortably. I'm simply saying for me, I can still fold the seat backs, I specifically mentioned seat backs, forward without having to adjust the front seats, which is identical to the other vehicles I've owned. Tumbling forward for me is not a feature I will likely use and some of my past vehicles I had. I mentioned that's because I prioritize a flatter cargo area and with my vehicle being a hybrid, this is nearly accomplished by simply folding the seat backs forward. I also wouldn't be bothered by having to temporarily adjust the seat or seat back forward in order to fold the rear seat backs down, and then readjusting my seat, if I could then adjust the seat back to a comfortable position. I'm glad the vehicles have the ability to adjust the seats to a comfortable seating position. Clearly, we drive differently and have different body compositions.
Do you have the headrests off?
