This is with warm tires. I’ll check it again in the morning.
factory psi is 33
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factory psi is 33
if its any consolation, my 2014 hood flexed also, its the switch to lighter hoods that is the issue, not just the 4R
also i tend to run a higher cold psi in winter since we can hit sub zero temps in ND, but summer i tend to stay around oem psi on tires
The hood on your 4Runner is aluminum and will flex, this is normal and nothing to be alarmed with. You need to let your vehicle sit and recheck your tire psi after the tires have cooled. 33 psi is too low. The member suggesting this psi has a 4Runner with SR rated light truck tires where yours has E Rated LT / AT tires which are a heavier / stronger tire. I would run at least 37 up to 40 psi cold. You currently have a 2 psi variance with your tires warm and as the tires cool, the psi will drop. Running lower psi results in increased rolling resistance and will make the vehicle less stable at speed. If your dealer is close by, stop in and have them do so or you can stop at an Instant Oil Change shop and they generally set your tires for you at no charge and get them on the $$. Also, if you haven't checked, have the dealer check the settings on your shocks. Mine were set to 3 differing settings and this could make the vehicle drive wanky. All of this is supposed to be done prior to delivery but if you search through the forum it seems the only consistent thing most get from their dealer is a swift kick in the ass when taking delivery. Take it back and let them earn what was supposed to be done before you took delivery. Good Luck
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I'm running 285/70-18 E rated tires at 35 cold and the ride is perfect for me.
If he has the stock Toyo's, they are an SL rated tire, no? If so, 33 is number... I don't think he said he put on aftermarket ones.
The ones that came on mine 265/65/18 were E load Toyo AT3s?
Really?! Maybe your dealer did something extra. The OEM tires are 265/70R/18 116H, which I believe are the tuned down version of the 116T, which is SL. I could very well be wrong though! Does anyone else have any info regarding this?
Hi Soulsea. Welcome to the club! I have a black 2025 Pro I purchased in April of last year and have about 9,700 miles on it. As I am sure you’ve seen in the forums, be careful of that black paint! It scratches and swirls just by looking at it. I went ahead and did a full Xpel Stealth PPF and love it. Such a peace of mind of not having to worry about any scratches and most road debris.Hi,
As the title says, these are just some initial thoughts of my TRD Pro and not a comprehensive review. Also please note that this is not only my first 4Runner, but at 58yo and over seventy vehicles of all types, also my first Toyota ever. Also it should be noted that I bought this as a ‘swiss army’ vehicle, something that can be used mostly as a daily schlepper, apocalypse escaper, and moderate to aggressive off-roader when we’re in Sedona AZ about six weeks a year. Last, before anyone says that some of many observations are off road tire or body on frame truck related, please know that I have recently owned both a Gen 2 Raptor and a Ram TRX, both obviously off-road focused and with much bigger A/T oem tires.
Pros:
- Looks great inside and out.
- Very comfortable ride quality around town and handles better than I expected given its weight and high center of gravity.
- Not fast by any stretch of the imagination but punchier than I expected.
- Not tested off-road yet but impressed with the available terrain modes.
- Great ergonomics, intuitive infotainment system, decent sound system.
- Loaded with all the needed options (HUD would have been a bonus)
Cons:
- Exhaust drone. This is a thing. It’s fine under accel and decel, and you get a nice hint of a turbo whistle, but cruising at 45mph while the thing is in either of the top two gears is an affront to the ears. Once you get to above 55 the road/wind noise drown it out but it’s annoying when you‘re in 50 ish mph cruise controlling. Sport mode helps a little getting there, but once you’re at that speed there’s no avoiding it in any mode.
- Interior rattles. This one really surprised me because I was under the impression that Toyota would be the one brand that would have sorted that out. Again I get the deal with BoF trucks, and maybe my expectations were too high, but uneven terrain induced rattles aside I shouldn’t hear my doors and other interior panels vibrate listening to music at moderate volume and with the bass set at 50%. That’s an indication of poor part adhesion/connection, and if they can’t stop the speakers from doing it body flex is certainly going to make the thing rattle.
- My biggest gripe is vibration related, and this is why I noted that this isn’t my first time on A/T tires so I don’t think it has anything to do with it (although different AT tires do have different characteristics so it could be related). Everything vibrates on this thing inside and out, some things very slightly and some things quite a lot. Some things are ride induced others aerodynamically induced. The hood is both, and not just the ridge you see from the driver’s pov, but the whole thing just flexes up and down at any speed, add wind to it at highway speeds and it basically never goes away no matter how smooth the road is. It’s both distracting and annoying. The outside mirrors also vibrate at highway speeds. You can see the steering wheel and top of the headrests also slightly vibrate as the speed increases. I’m going to take it to the dealer at 1000 miles for an oil change and I’ll ask them to check the balance and alignment and hopefully something was slightly off from the factory, otherwise this could get old real quick on a long road trip. I‘m waiting till then because sometimes such things can improve as the vehicle settles and tread wears off.
- Can’t get the digital key to work. Bluetooth is connected, iphone is connected, carplay is connected, the rest of the app works, but it keeps telling me to connect Bluetooth every time I try to set up the app key. Maybe I’ll delete the app and start over to see if that works.
I know it sounds like I’ve been more negative than positive, but fundamentally I really like the truck … these are small to medium initial issues that are keeping me from instantly loving it. Alternatively if I don’t resolve them or get used to them, they could also wear on me over time.
That’s all I got after 200 miles … obviously any thoughts and feedback are appreciated.
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- Exhaust Drone: As a few of the other great members said, you can turn off the artificial pumped in noise. I just had that done yesterday and it has made such a difference. I left the ANC on, as that helps with road and wind noise.
- Interior Rattles: I hear ya on this one. When I brought it in for the 10,000 mile oil change, I had them fix the “buzz/rattle” in the driver’s side door, which you can really hear when the bass is up. I also had a rattle around the middle of the sunroof, which was fixed as well. Here is what the problem is/was, wiring harnesses. The harnesses are not coming undone, they are just not secured well from the factory, so they are coming loose from their mounting points. Service was able to re-adhere them and the rattles/buzzing is gone! So much quieter!
- Vibration: As a few of the other members have said, the hood is the hood. You get moving and with the airflow, vibration from the road, they thing flutters like crazy. Just wait until you drive it in the rain and experience all the different ways the water flys off it in different speeds. It seems it just is the way it is. I haven’t experience any other vibration issues with mine, but if you do a search, it seems a few other members have. I think they may have gotten it resolved getting the wheels re-aligned and making sure the PSI is correct. The OEM Toyos are soft and shouldn’t be contributing…
Also, I just got the OTT tune yesterday and will do a full review on it in a few days and after a 1,000 mile road trip I’m taking, but what I can say is damn… Normal mode is like sport and sport is like a rocket ship. The difference is pretty incredible!
Enjoy the new rig and happy driving! - Zach
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Same here - my ORP is super tight, just the buckle banging again the pillar trim. Thinking stick on felt may resolve it. Tire pressure was also way too high at delivery
And yeah the fake engine noise in sport is ridiculous.
And yeah the fake engine noise in sport is ridiculous.
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The hood thing is not alarming me, it’s just distracting me and I just think it shouldn’t be there, that said I am also a smidgen ocd so it probably bugs me more than it would most other folks.
Now I do have an update because I took heed of some of you suggestions. The truck had been sitting for a couple of hours so I equalized all the tire pressures to 35psi when cold (I might try 33 just to see what it does). I also went under the truck to look at the shock settings. They were actually all set at the same level but that level was the stiffest. I haven’t looked at the manual but I remember reading that they should be set at medium for every day driving, either way that’s where I set them.
Yes the Truck rolls a bit more, but between easing the psi and setting the shocks to medium it has obviously softened everything down by a notch. After taking it out for a quick drive I would say that a great deal of the vibration has gone away, to the point that whatever little there is left seems like what one should expect from the nature of the vehicle. I haven’t tested the theory yet but I’m also hoping the increased softness might help with some of the rattles as it stands to reason that the more ‘taught’ the whole thing is the more it will transfer energy to its individual components. We shall see.
In regards to the hood flex I guess that’s just something I’ll have to get used to. Every vehicle no matter the price point has its quirks, I guess this is one of the 4Runner‘s.
You guys have been very helpful, so thank you for that.
You're welcome! I was lazy and just had the dealer do it and they charged be $25... As for the shock setting, yes glad you looked at that as well. If it was on 3, that is the stiffest. I have mine set at 2, unless I'm doing some off-roading and want to change it up a bit.Thank you for all that.
Ok so I need to either have the dealer disconnect the ESE or buy one of those gizmos that can do it.
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Here's what suppose to come on the Pro, which did on mine, hard to believe a dealer would sell a new vehicle with E rated tires. Might want to recheck.
TRD Pro
18" inch flat black finished alloy wheels (18x7.5" +20mm offset)
33" Inch Toyo Open Country A/T III All-Terrain tires (265/70R18)
which is a SL rated tire.
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