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You can turn off the FOB from transmitting (prevent FOB cloning) by putting it into "battery save mode". Hold down LOCK while pressing UNLOCK twice. The LED will flash four times total to confirm it's in BSM. When I take the FOB to the car, the doors won't open until the FOB is activated again by pressing UNLOCK.
Yes Sir, it was just 3 days of having the 4Runner and I didn’t think of it, I’m still waiting (3months) to get it back still waiting for parts as soon I get it back I make sure to do that and I’m also installing an inmmobilizer
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Yes Sir, it was just 3 days of having the 4Runner and I didn’t think of it, I’m still waiting (3months) to get it back still waiting for parts as soon I get it back I make sure to do that and I’m also installing an inmmobilizer
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My condolences and sympathies. Really hope it works out for you.
 

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I did an experiment just out of curiosity. I put my keyfob into an Altoids tin, closed the tin, and I was still able to lock/unlock the door. So the small gap due to the fit of the Altoids lid was enough of a gap to allow the RF from the fob to escape.

So if you were thinking of buying a generic metal box/lid to store all your keyfobs in while you're at home, you'd also need to buy some conducting gasket to wrap where the lid and box make contact (something like this: RF gasket ).
 
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I did an experiment just out of curiosity. I put my keyfob into an Altoids tin, closed the tin, and I was still able to lock/unlock the door. So the small gap due to the fit of the Altoids lid was enough of a gap to allow the RF from the fob to escape.

So if you were thinking of buying a generic metal box/lid to store all your keyfobs in while you're at home, you'd also need to buy some conducting gasket to wrap where the lid and box make contact (something like this: RF gasket ).
Thanks, I’ll try everything that everyone suggested, I appreciate your feedback
 

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I did an experiment just out of curiosity. I put my keyfob into an Altoids tin, closed the tin, and I was still able to lock/unlock the door. So the small gap due to the fit of the Altoids lid was enough of a gap to allow the RF from the fob to escape.

So if you were thinking of buying a generic metal box/lid to store all your keyfobs in while you're at home, you'd also need to buy some conducting gasket to wrap where the lid and box make contact (something like this: RF gasket ).
I did a couple tests myself and ended up buying a couple Faraday pouches - here's a link, they're small enough you can slip one key in and they completely block the truck from picking up the keyfob signal.
 

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I picked up this kit that has a box that fits 5-8 FOBs and 2 pouches. Tested all and works.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GNZMLVS
Faraday Box & 2 Pack Faraday Bag for Key Fob Protector, by Todoxi. Seems like a reasonable price for all that.

The closed pouch is small enough to carry in your pants pocket.

One thing I read about these Faraday pouches in general is that after some extended period of use and flexing, I guess the metallic threads of the fabric will eventually break and start to leak RF. So you need to test them periodically to be sure they still block RF from getting out. Hopefully it's at least a couple years before that happens.
 

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You can turn off the FOB from transmitting (prevent FOB cloning) by putting it into "battery save mode". Hold down LOCK while pressing UNLOCK twice. The LED will flash four times total to confirm it's in BSM. When I take the FOB to the car, the doors won't open until the FOB is activated again by pressing UNLOCK.
So do you have to do that procedure everytime after you press UNLOCK? Or does it always stay in BSM mode once set?
 

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This is exactly why i installed an aftermarket immobilizer. Ain't no-one getting my 4runner unless they put it on a flatbed.

Sorry about ur loss
On this - I had my LC stolen a month ago and have a 4Runner coming next week. Were there any issues with warranty on the installation. Did you contact Toyota or anything of the sort?
 

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First thing I did on mine was install an IGLA immobilizer. They can still relay the key but they will not be able to start and drive away.

Also.. turning off your fob every time you park isn't going to stop someone from breaking a window and using a tablet to create a new key and drive away.
 

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On this - I had my LC stolen a month ago and have a 4Runner coming next week. Were there any issues with warranty on the installation. Did you contact Toyota or anything of the sort?
Were you visiting Ontario? I thought thefts in Alberta were quite rare.
 

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First thing I did on mine was install an IGLA immobilizer. They can still relay the key but they will not be able to start and drive away.

Also.. turning off your fob every time you park isn't going to stop someone from breaking a window and using a tablet to create a new key and drive away.
I just read up on the Igla. Seems like a bit of a pain to use. Why did you pick that over a Ravelco?
 

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Ha nope. Parked at a friends house for dinner and it was gone 2 hours later. 1 of 6 Toyota trucks taken from that area in 3 months. It’s an everywhere problem and it’s embarrassing how easy it is/auto makers don’t do anything.
 

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I just read up on the Igla. Seems like a bit of a pain to use. Why did you pick that over a Ravelco?
The Ravelco would work but you have to carry something extra with you and plug it in.

With IGLA you authenticate with your phone using the app, the bluetooth fobs, or pressing specific OEM buttons you define. You can also put the device in service mode for your vehicle to be worked on and nobody would know its there.

To use the IGLA : Start the ignition, then press the button sequence and you can start the vehicle once the indicator lights flash. It takes a few more seconds to start the vehicle, but you also have to take a few seconds to plug the Revelco in right? IGLA can still remote start the car, but if you don't authenticate, the engine will turn off when you shift out of park.
 
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The Ravelco would work but you have to carry something extra with you and plug it in.

With IGLA you authenticate with your phone using the app, the bluetooth fobs, or pressing specific OEM buttons you define. You can also put the device in service mode for your vehicle to be worked on and nobody would know its there.

To use the IGLA : Start the ignition, then press the button sequence and you can start the vehicle once the indicator lights flash. It takes a few more seconds to start the vehicle, but you also have to take a few seconds to plug the Revelco in right? IGLA can still remote start the car, but if you don't authenticate, the engine will turn off when you shift out of park.
The thing w the Ravelco is it is a no brainer to use. Explaining how it works to someone is super simple - plug it in. And you can leave it plugged in. This is a big deal if you are not the only driver.

Reading this thread made me realize it is not for me:

https://www.ram-trx.com/threads/i-had-igla-for-5-days-what-you-should-know-before-installing.14609/

But whatever works for you, works for you. Good thing we have choices!
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