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I just did an 800 mile road trip with only 90 miles on the Odometer. After a few hours my foot was getting tired so I tried out the cruise control, remembering that a continuous speed helps het better gas mileage and that was something I was interested in boosting on the highway.

Well, let me say "don't use cruise control" wouldn't apply in this situation. If there are any cars in front of you or moderate traffic, that thing is going up and down through the gears and breaking itself in better than I could if I tried. I was actually annoyed with all the gear searching and sometimes aggressive throttle at first but it seems I may be in good shape.

Give the cruise control a try and you will see what I mean.
So are you saying that the cruise control was helpful with your break in period?
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So are you saying that the cruise control was helpful with your break in period?
I didn't know it at the time because my normal break-in procedure is to just, take it easy, within reason for the first 1K miles. I've only ever owned one brand new vehicle. It was a 2016 Mustang that had 147K miles on it and ran amazingly, but I had to trade it in due to hail damage.

After reading this thread, I feel like the adaptive cruise control pretty much took care of a lot of the recommended steps. Lots of up and downshifting, some engine braking and incredibly varied throttle and RPM's. Time will tell, but I am pretty satisfied.
 

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I didn't know it at the time because my normal break-in procedure is to just, take it easy, within reason for the first 1K miles. I've only ever owned one brand new vehicle. It was a 2016 Mustang that had 147K miles on it and ran amazingly, but I had to trade it in due to hail damage.

After reading this thread, I feel like the adaptive cruise control pretty much took care of a lot of the recommended steps. Lots of up and downshifting, some engine braking and incredibly varied throttle and RPM's. Time will tell, but I am pretty satisfied.
That's reassuring to me particularly because I drove mine home from the dealership 243 miles mostly highway & I used ACC most of the way. I've been concerned because I didn't realize at the time what a proper break in procedure consists of. This is my first brand new vehicle & I didn't think much about researching the break in procedure. Mine still only has 257 miles on it currently so I've got a ways to go before it the break in period is over.
 

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That's reassuring to me particularly because I drove mine home from the dealership 243 miles mostly highway & I used ACC most of the way. I've been concerned because I didn't realize at the time what a proper break in procedure consists of. This is my first brand new vehicle & I didn't think much about researching the break in procedure. Mine still only has 257 miles on it currently so I've got a ways to go before it the break in period is over.
I worried about the same thing (or similar) with the Mustang cause when I drove it home from the dealer with 13 miles on it, hour long drive, I got a bit "spirited" and revved it up quite a bit. No WoT but pretty darned close. I went all over the Mustang 6G forums asking if I did something stupid to my engine and got mixed responses, but I swear that engine was just as strong at 147K miles as day 1. Better even. I think it's more important to ALWAYS use a high quality synthetic oil, and run the correct viscosity for the climate you live in. Example, the Mustang called for 5W 20 synthetic blend with a 10K change interval. My first oil change was at 300 miles, 5W 30 full synthetic and my intervals were 3-5K miles. People don't realize that the right oil, changed at the right interval is the #1 way to prolong the life of an engine. Spend a little more on oil changes and reap the benefits of insanely long engine life.
 

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I worried about the same thing (or similar) with the Mustang cause when I drove it home from the dealer with 13 miles on it, hour long drive, I got a bit "spirited" and revved it up quite a bit. No WoT but pretty darned close. I went all over the Mustang 6G forums asking if I did something stupid to my engine and got mixed responses, but I swear that engine was just as strong at 147K miles as day 1. Better even. I think it's more important to ALWAYS use a high quality synthetic oil, and run the correct viscosity for the climate you live in. Example, the Mustang called for 5W 20 synthetic blend with a 10K change interval. My first oil change was at 300 miles, 5W 30 full synthetic and my intervals were 3-5K miles. People don't realize that the right oil, changed at the right interval is the #1 way to prolong the life of an engine. Spend a little more on oil changes and reap the benefits of insanely long engine life.
I agree...oil changes are the #1 way to extend engine life & minimize problems.
I live in Houston, TX...only about 177 miles from Georgetown, TX. Our new 4Runners call for 0W-20 motor oil. What's your opinion on using that in our climate?
 

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I agree...oil changes are the #1 way to extend engine life & minimize problems.
I live in Houston, TX...only about 177 miles from Georgetown, TX. Our new 4Runners call for 0W-20 motor oil. What's your opinion on using that in our climate?
Also in Texas, and Toyota designed it for the 0W-20 and they've tested it and having 100's of thousands of these engines on various platforms.... I think we're good.
 

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I’m approaching 1000 miles I did the hard break in!!
A lot of high speed runs to maybe 85-90 but RPMs never hit over 4000, I also used to tow/haul mode that way there’s a lot of engine braking happened causing back pressure on the piston rings. And on the highway just varying speeds from 65 to 85 to 65 to 85. Now that the motors broken in and needs an oil change. I feel like that transmission had a good break in also and I feel like that oil needs to be drained and refilled.
 

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I'm purchasing out of state and it'll be roughly a 6 HR drive back home. Should I be concerned about the following point?

-Do not drive at a constant speed for extended period
I just purchased from out of state and had a 250 mile drive back. I found a slower way to go, would change speeds a lot, and followed the basic rules. Who knows if I did it completely right but I definitely took it easy. I was fortunate to be in the middle of nowhere a bit so that helped.
 

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Also in Texas, and Toyota designed it for the 0W-20 and they've tested it and having 100's of thousands of these engines on various platforms.... I think we're good.
I'm going to somewhat disagree with you. Yes, the engineers know what they are doing but the pressure to increase MPG and please the EPA and CARB regulations actually trumps longevity and best practice.

I feel much better running a higher viscosity down here, especially if the engine is under heavy load. On my 2015 Mustang, the manual called for 5W 20 and I ran 5W 40 for nearly 140,000 miles. When the hail totaled that car, the engine was running as strong as ever and easily could have gotten to 300K. That year 5.0 engine was notorious for blowing and I read countless horror stories on the 6g forums. I feel I made the right choice.
 

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There’s a middle road approach, which is what I always do on new cars: follow the recommendations BUT make sure to induce engine braking to help seat the rings. Vary the RPMs a lot, rev it up (within the recommended guidelines) and let it coast back down. Also downshift from time to time.

Idea is to create back pressure to seat the rings. That’s what the “drive it hard” theory is about. And it can be done within the guidelines.
I've owned over a dozen subarus. All of them never had famous oil blowby/usage or needed head gaskets because of the early engine braking as a part of the break-in procedure. Never, ever steered me wrong and don't plan on changing things up with my SP either.

Get up to rpms, downshift. repeat at varied times on various trips to wherever you're going.

I've also had rotary engined cars. The care and feeding of those were the most needed. This? Bah. Not worried.
 
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We picked up our ORP non‑hybrid on May 9th with just 10 km on it. Over the past few days, we’ve been driving it around the city, and the odometer is now at about 150 km.
We’re planning to leave early tomorrow at 4 AM for a trip that’s roughly 7–8 hours (around 800 km one way).

There’s also a spring storm expected tonight, with widespread strong winds gusting up to 110 km/h.

I know the timing isn’t ideal, but my wife prefers not to spend another $500–$600 on a rental car. 😞

I’ve read through the forums and plan to take it easy by stopping every 1–2 hours during the drive.
Additionally, I’m planning to do an oil change once we’re back next week, which should put the odometer at around 2,000 km (about 1,200 miles).

Any tips or advice to help make the trip as safe as possible would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I would drive it like your normally would. In the past I've bought new vehicles far from me. One was over 1500 miles away. Plus while down there I didn't drive straight home. I put about 3000 miles (about half at interstate speeds) and didn't think twice. I sold that car with over 250k on it without a problem. Back then it was either 3500 or 5000 miles between oil changes. Since then oil has gotten better. You bought a Toyota for reliability, I doubt it but if you can break it by driving 800km then do it now while it's still under warranty.
 

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I just drove our new 4Runner 250 miles home from the dealership.

I am really into high performance cars in general, and I have built lots of engines and ran them on a dyno and I didn’t break them in like an old lady driving to church….

You put them under a load against the dyno brake and vary the RPM from about 2,000 to 5,000, cycling them a few times up and down in load ranges and holding rpm up above 2,500 especially if they are a flat tappet older -style engine to break in the cam and lifters. Right after breaking in for 30 minutes or so, the engine is cooled down and brought back up to test temp, then ran at full throttle, past peak horsepower, and loaded multiple times while being tested for max power output. It wasn’t loafed along at idle or low rpm only for fear of hurting it.

On all my new cars, when they are brand new, I drive them on long highway trips varying the rpm from 2,000 to 4,500 or so, by going up and down through the gears and accelerating at half throttle from 30 to 70, then decelerating by gearing down and putting the engine into higher vacuum engine-braking. I did this for 1/2 of my trip back. The engine seemed to already be running better after 100 miles or so.

I do plan on either changing the oil myself or having it done at the dealer at 500 miles, and keeping the oil filter to cut and inspect for trash and metal particles.

I have never owned a newer model car that used oil, and all have lasted way past 250,000 miles without issues and running great when I sold them. I always put my foot to the floor when I can, and it doesn’t hurt anything to do so several times a week.

I do like to run a wideband O2 on any turbo car to watch out for a tank of sub-par gas, and I am considering doing this in the 4Runner as well. I know that the knock sensor is very good on OEM ECU’s, and the algorithm to retard timing and save the pistons will work 99% of the time, but nothing is completely safe when you get a tank of cat-pee gas!
This is a good post - thanks!

Somebody posted the below in another thread and got me thinking: if someone wanted to break in the engine per your recommendations of achieving varying RPMs from 2,000 - 4,500 AND didn't want to drive the car in manual mode (for w/e reason), would driving the new vehicle in SPORT mode help in achieving this/be recommended?
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    • Downshifts happen more eagerly and earlier when decelerating or when more power is requested
    • Shifts feel firmer and more deliberate
    • The turbo stays spooled up longer, making highway passing and acceleration feel more confident
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Sport mode in a brand new 4Runner is iffy, because you will get more boost at lower throttle inputs and lower RPM as well. When I am breaking an engine in, I don’t want high boost to happen very much until I cycle it through some rpm with no load and no boost, and do several miles of deceleration loading and high vacuum events.

Driving in gears that keep the RPM at 3,000 or above is the best idea to keep load off the turbo and keep rpm up, but hard to do if you aren’t in manual mode.
 
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You might be someone I could take some good advice from. I've been a bit concerned about having driven my new Sport Premium home from
the dealership approximately 250 miles away. Stupid me didn't research a break in procedure before making the decision to drive it home & the salesman told me Toyotas no longer require a break in procedure (which I doubted).

So my drive home was about 5 to 5.5 hours & mostly highway. I did pull over after about 1 hour to adjust tire pressure as I felt the tires were overinflated a bit after driving on them a bit. I also did have a small bit of in town driving as I passed through a city & when entering my neck of the woods. But largely I kept my speed at 60 & 65 for the long stretch of highway driving using adaptive cruise control & occasionally braking when some vehicles jumped in front of me. I was pretty concerned about getting rock chips on my pristine 4Runner before dropping it off at my chosen detailing shop for PPF installation...so I tried to keep my distance from other vehicles. I did accelerate a few times to about 70...maybe 75 max...only to pass a few vehicles traveling slower than I was but then backed it down to 60 & 65. I'm wishing now I had just spent the $600-$700 to have it trailered home so I could avoid the long time constant speed that I did driving on the way home...but I didn't know at the time that doing that constant speed is potentially causing damage leading to oil burning issues later in the 4Runner's life. And that's concerning for because I have every intention of caring for & driving this 4Runner for the next 15-20 years. I currently have 257 miles on it while it sits in my detailing shop of choice getting full PPF, windshield film, full tint & full ceramic coating.

On a different note, I plan to have the oil & filter changed before 275 miles, at 500 miles, at 1,000 miles, at 2,000 miles, at 4,000 miles & then every 4,000-5,000 miles for the life of the vehicle. I don't want to chance typical new engine wear metals doing much damage so I want to get it out sooner than later. Oil changes are relatively cheap compared to the damage & hassles caused by wear debris left in there early on.

❔ Do you think that me driving it home as described caused harm to my new vehicle?

❔ Moving forward, how do you suggest driving it exactly to help it break in properly?

❔ How long can I expect to be in the break in period?

I appreciate your opinion (and one else's who may read my post here).
Dude, just drive normally. Modern engines are not sensitive to break in procedure; that's why you've never heard of anyone having any sort of issue related to break-in. It's been a long time since I was a powertrain engineer but you can be sure that engines are designed to tolerate all the variations in customer driving habits. Just follow the owner's manual.
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