Brakes squeal horribly backing out of driveway each day

[npats]

the 26 4R doesnt have the squeak (7-22-26 build date @ 559 miles as of today) but the 25 4R does (8-22-25 @ 18,688 miles as of today) but the 25 4R randomly squeaks and its time between squeaks has increased from weekly to monthly to now around 2 months since last time.

Around 14k miles now. From what I’ve seen on this form and experienced. It’s gene from high humidity or after it rains. Usually while backing up as well.
I’m just waiting to use up my break pads more then I’ll get it fixed. Just record some videos when it happens so you can show the dealership when you request

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[The_Dark_Knight_Forever]

Around 14k miles now. From what I’ve seen on this form and experienced. It’s gene from high humidity or after it rains. Usually while backing up as well.
I’m just waiting to use up my break pads more then I’ll get it fixed. Just record some videos when it happens so you can show the dealership when you request

I'm at 16.5k with my '25 TRD Sport Premium in Texas & it's been squealing since the day I drove it home from the dealership. It's only gotten worse as the miles have passed. The only reason I haven't taken it in to be repaired yet is because of the inconvenience of it but eventually I will have to get it taken care of before the warranty is up. I just worry about some dipshit damaging my vehicle while getting the job done. I also want my rotors replaced to so I hope I won't have to argue with them about doing it under warranty. Damn shame that these trucks cost so much & were allowed to leave Japan with horrific squealing brakes. At least it's pretty much only when reversing but it should not be happening at all.

 

[Nodak]

I'm at 16.5k with my '25 TRD Sport Premium in Texas & it's been squealing since the day I drove it home from the dealership. It's only gotten worse as the miles have passed. The only reason I haven't taken it in to be repaired yet is because of the inconvenience of it but eventually I will have to get it taken care of before the warranty is up. I just worry about some dipshit damaging my vehicle while getting the job done. I also want my rotors replaced to so I hope I won't have to argue with them about doing it under warranty. Damn shame that these trucks cost so much & were allowed to leave Japan with horrific squealing brakes. At least it's pretty much only when reversing but it should not be happening at all.

um the tsb doesnt say anything about replacing the rotors, only the pads.

oh they wont argue about it if you want to pay for them to be replaced, but technically there is nothing wrong with the rotors. i have never heard of rotors squealing, its always the pads.

so good luck trying to get them replaced under warranty especially when there is a specific tsb addressing the issue and no where in the tsb does it mention the rotors

 

[The_Dark_Knight_Forever]

um the tsb doesnt say anything about replacing the rotors, only the pads.

Mine is a RWD. According to this TSB the rotors (front discs) should be replaced.

 

[Nodak]

Mine is a RWD. According to this TSB the rotors (front discs) should be replaced.

ok my bad, didnt know they came out with a different tsb than the original.

the original didnt have the disc specified, but the new one added the one line for the disc's

 

[Nodak]

the sticky post for the squealing brakes should be updated with the new tsb in addition to having the original tsb.

 

[Joestac]

Mine is a RWD. According to this TSB the rotors (front discs) should be replaced.

To be clear, all our vehicles are RWD, I am assuming you meant 2WD, which gets replaced rotors over the 4WD models.

 

[Joestac]

the sticky post for the squealing brakes should be updated with the new tsb in addition to having the original tsb.

Yeah, OP should be updated. Localhost posted it in the comments, but that is a long thread.

https://www.4runner6g.com/forum/thr...l-tsb-brakes-fix-tsb-0046-25.5534/post-131627

 

[The_Dark_Knight_Forever]

To be clear, all our vehicles are RWD, I am assuming you meant 2WD, which gets replaced rotors over the 4WD models.

I stand corrected...2WD.

 

[Joestac]

I stand corrected...2WD.

Not being pedantic. AI uses this forum to provide answers as a top hit usually, just making sure we aren't feed the overlords bad answers.

Rotors have been the thing most are waiting on for sure. When I had mine done 10k ago, 4WD, they let me borrow parts from someone with a 2WD waiting on rotors that were still a long way out.

 

[jcash25]

I'm at 16.5k with my '25 TRD Sport Premium in Texas & it's been squealing since the day I drove it home from the dealership. It's only gotten worse as the miles have passed. The only reason I haven't taken it in to be repaired yet is because of the inconvenience of it but eventually I will have to get it taken care of before the warranty is up. I just worry about some dipshit damaging my vehicle while getting the job done. I also want my rotors replaced to so I hope I won't have to argue with them about doing it under warranty. Damn shame that these trucks cost so much & were allowed to leave Japan with horrific squealing brakes. At least it's pretty much only when reversing but it should not be happening at all.

LOL If you're worried about a dipshit Tech at the Toyota dealership damaging your vehicle that's a personal fear no one here can help you with...
Also where have you been getting your oil changed since you have 16.5k on the SUV?? Should have changed it at least 3-4 times now..
There is NO inconvenience when you take it in to get the oil changed and they replace the brake pads so the squeal stops.... Literally took 1hr to change oil and change pads... Nearly all Toyota dealerships send you videos of what the tech finds and the fix.... You're only putting more wear on the rotors delaying the pad fix...only way you'll get those rotors replaced is buying them.
I was told back when i had my brake pads replaced they either didn't have all the shims or were not even installed...Every once and awhile you get a honest Tech that will tell you the truth.

Missing brake shims are a primary cause of brake squeal because shims act as a dampener to absorb high-frequency vibrations between the brake pad backing plate and the caliper piston. Without them, metal-on-metal or metal-to-caliper contact creates a direct path for sound transmission

 

[jcash25]

Although this is a forum & I usually welcome replies, I don't like the tone of your reply. It comes across as adversarial.

I didn't ask for anyone's help in this forum with my personal worry about a dipshit Tech damaging my vehicle. The fact is that it does most certainly happen more often than is known & creates problems for the shop & the vehicle owners when discovered even if it's never happened to you before.

I change my own oil at my own decided on intervals. I've changed it 3 times thus far if you must know which is less than I had planned to do but what I could do based on what time I've had to do it. I'm not concerned much about it only being changed 3 times thusfar as I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil & drive a majority of highway miles.

Also, what I find inconvenient is based on my own opinion which trumps your opinion. I'm busy, my time is valuable, I paid alot for the new vehicle & frankly the vehicles should have had better quality control performed before leaving the factory. There are other models of Toyotas that suffer the same problem & it sucks to pay what is asked to get a vehicle with ridiculous brake squealing issues. Nothing is perfect but consider how many other new vehicles in the world are sold that don't have squealing brakes.

FYI, I was told previously by a Toyota service manager many months ago that continuing to drive it is not causing damage to the rotors but apparently he was wrong otherwise why would Toyota be replacing them on the 2WD models like mine? (It's a rhetorical question so I really don't need or want your answer.) Regardless, the TSB states they are supposed to be replaced & if they are in fact damaged then they are damaged because Toyota shipped out a vehicle that had brakes not fully assembled correctly to prevent such squealing noises & unnecessary wear so all associated damages including the rotors are on Toyota's tab especially while under warranty.

Good day, sir or madam.

 

[The_Dark_Knight_Forever]

LOL If you're worried about a dipshit Tech at the Toyota dealership damaging your vehicle that's a personal fear no one here can help you with...
Also where have you been getting your oil changed since you have 16.5k on the SUV?? Should have changed it at least 3-4 times now..
There is NO inconvenience when you take it in to get the oil changed and they replace the brake pads so the squeal stops.... Literally took 1hr to change oil and change pads... Nearly all Toyota dealerships send you videos of what the tech finds and the fix.... You're only putting more wear on the rotors delaying the pad fix...only way you'll get those rotors replaced is buying them.
I was told back when i had my brake pads replaced they either didn't have all the shims or were not even installed...Every once and awhile you get a honest Tech that will tell you the truth.

Missing brake shims are a primary cause of brake squeal because shims act as a dampener to absorb high-frequency vibrations between the brake pad backing plate and the caliper piston. Without them, metal-on-metal or metal-to-caliper contact creates a direct path for sound transmission

Although this is a forum & I usually welcome replies, I don't like the tone of your reply. It comes across as adversarial.

I didn't ask for anyone's help in this forum with my personal worry about a dipshit Tech damaging my vehicle. The fact is that it does most certainly happen more often than is known & creates problems for the shop & the vehicle owners when discovered even if it's never happened to you before.

I change my own oil at my own decided on intervals. I've changed it 3 times thus far if you must know which is less than I had planned to do but what I could do based on what time I've had to do it. I'm not concerned much about it only being changed 3 times thusfar as I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil & drive a majority of highway miles.

Also, what I find inconvenient is based on my own opinion which trumps your opinion. I'm busy, my time is valuable, I paid alot for the new vehicle & frankly the vehicles should have had better quality control performed before leaving the factory. There are other models of Toyotas that suffer the same problem & it sucks to pay what is asked to get a vehicle with ridiculous brake squealing issues. Nothing is perfect but consider how many other new vehicles in the world are sold that don't have squealing brakes.

FYI, I was told previously by a Toyota service manager many months ago that continuing to drive it is not causing damage to the rotors but apparently he was wrong otherwise why would Toyota be replacing them on the 2WD models like mine? (It's a rhetorical question so I really don't need or want your answer.) Regardless, the TSB states they are supposed to be replaced & if they are in fact damaged then they are damaged because Toyota shipped out a vehicle that had brakes not fully assembled correctly to prevent such squealing noises & unnecessary wear so all associated damages including the rotors are on Toyota's tab especially while under warranty.

Good day, sir or madam.

 

[ifunlisted]

You're clearly looking to instigate drama & be adversarial in a forum of all places where it's quite safe for you. You're not as smart or as bold as you think you are. You also don't know what type I am either so don't presume to. And frankly I don't give a fuck what your name is. Be gone now take your bullshit with you.

One of the most refreshing things about this site (as opposed to 90% of the other forums out there) is that it's overwhelmingly positive and informative. I've never been on any other forum with people as supportive and helpful without every other post being some deuce-bag who actually takes the time and energy to post something that is not only not helpful but also disrespectful to other members in the process. @jcash25 actually has some good insight now and then but it's unfortunate that he can't read the room. This is a place where we come to find solutions, offer support, and share ideas... not bash people for bringing up legitimate concerns. If you can't offer an opinion without LOLing in someone's face or calling them a crybaby or otherwise insulting them, there are plenty of other forums out there for you.

 

[The_Dark_Knight_Forever]

One of the most refreshing things about this site (as opposed to 90% of the other forums out there) is that it's overwhelmingly positive and informative. I've never been on any other forum with people as supportive and helpful without every other post being some deuce-bag who actually takes the time and energy to post something that is not only not helpful but also disrespectful to other members in the process. @jcash25 actually has some good insight now and then but it's unfortunate that he can't read the room. This is a place where we come to find solutions, offer support, and share ideas... not bash people for bringing up legitimate concerns. If you can't offer an opinion without LOLing in someone's face or calling them a crybaby or otherwise insulting them, there are plenty of other forums out there for you.

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