Tips to soften suspension on Limited Non-Hybrid

[Nodak]

I think its configuration is different. Correct me if I’m wrong but in Tundra, AVS is combined with air bags, and I thought the TSB actually had more to do with the air setup than the AVS part of it.

On 4Runner, AVS seems to be front-only, and no air setup.

here is the adjustment arm on a avs tundra. it would change how close the bump would be.

and i think you are correct that the avs is combined with air bags in the rear.

our 23 platinum came with it unfortunately. most people liked it, but personally i didnt care for it.

not sure how the implementation is on the 4R. but it was worth a shot to maybe see if they did the same with a pivot arm to adjust the avs on the 4R

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[CBR]

Ordered the rear fox shocks, 1 month lead time, will update after install

 

[PierceVonCloud]

FWIW, I just put the Fox 2.5 rear shocks (Fox P/N 987-24-058) on my OR Hybrid and it solved the issue that you and your wife are describing. Before the car was very jittery and uncomfortable on certain roads. Some people say "it's a truck - that's expected". I disagree. Yes, it's a truck, but it's an off road truck. If the shocks were "wrong", you'd expect it to be too soft, i.e., wallow and nose dive - not ride like an empty haul truck that's meant to tow 20,000 pounds. I know your rear suspension trim is different than mine, but I've seen similar complaints on multiple 6th gen trims. I think whatever Toyota engineer (or team of them) that was responsible for compression damping on the rear axle got it very, very wrong.

 

[CBR]

Just got the rear fox 2.0 shocks, part number 985-24-274, installed on my 2025 4Runner Limited

I haven't had time to drive it routinely, so i'll do a review later. I took some pictures for anyone else who is interested.

I only did the rear shocks right now, I may do the front a little later. Did it at 4WP.

Here are some pictures, of the old Tokico rears. There is also a sensor/plug on these. Not sure if it's for AVS, I was under the impression that AVS is only for the front but I may be wrong. The new Fox shocks do not have it, so they tied it. I'll probably put some type of cover over the sensor in case I ever need to put the old ones back.

Replacing the rear shocks does not trigger any type of lights on the dashboard when unplugging the sensor. Users on the forum said the front's are the same, but i'll confirm at a later time if I do the fronts.

 

[JR_Ontario]

CBR, great information. Looking forward to your feedback on the ride with the new shocks!

J

Just got the rear fox 2.0 shocks, part number 985-24-274, installed on my 2025 4Runner Limited

I haven't had time to drive it routinely, so i'll do a review later. I took some pictures for anyone else who is interested.

I only did the rear shocks right now, I may do the front a little later. Did it at 4WP.

Here are some pictures, of the old Tokico rears. There is also a sensor/plug on these. Not sure if it's for AVS, I was under the impression that AVS is only for the front but I may be wrong. The new Fox shocks do not have it, so they tied it. I'll probably put some type of cover over the sensor in case I ever need to put the old ones back.

Replacing the rear shocks does not trigger any type of lights on the dashboard when unplugging the sensor. Users on the forum said the front's are the same, but i'll confirm at a later time if I do the fronts.

 

[NotApplicable]

Just got the rear fox 2.0 shocks, part number 985-24-274, installed on my 2025 4Runner Limited

I haven't had time to drive it routinely, so i'll do a review later. I took some pictures for anyone else who is interested.

I only did the rear shocks right now, I may do the front a little later. Did it at 4WP.

Here are some pictures, of the old Tokico rears. There is also a sensor/plug on these. Not sure if it's for AVS, I was under the impression that AVS is only for the front but I may be wrong. The new Fox shocks do not have it, so they tied it. I'll probably put some type of cover over the sensor in case I ever need to put the old ones back.

Replacing the rear shocks does not trigger any type of lights on the dashboard when unplugging the sensor. Users on the forum said the front's are the same, but i'll confirm at a later time if I do the fronts.

Maybe AVS is indeed all 4. I had thought it was front only because you can see the wires connecting to the top of the front shocks, but there were no visible wires on quick inspection of the rears, at least not in the same place as the fronts. But it sounds like they may indeed be AVS in the rear as well!

 

[CBR]

Been driving around the last few days, and I can say even doing the rear only makes it a little smoother. It's not so jarring anymore.

I also put in a order for the fronts. After I get those, i'll do a thorough review.

Because its hard to tell the difference with only the rears, and the front being OEM. Will switch to full FOX 2.0 on the 4runner limited and report back.

 

[hussch85]

Hi all

was hoping to get an update on the fox 2.0 on the limited, anyone install full set ? or perhaps OME or dobinson ?

getting more used to my limited but anything that will enhance the ride quality-im open to hear

 

[CBR]

Hi all

was hoping to get an update on the fox 2.0 on the limited, anyone install full set ? or perhaps OME or dobinson ?

getting more used to my limited but anything that will enhance the ride quality-im open to hear

I'm getting the fronts installed on Wednesday, that will makeit the full set. Will report back

 

[CBR]

Okay, so update: @hussch85

Installed the fronts now too. The main difference I see after installing the full set is that the bumps as not as bad. Before, you would really feel strong jolts. Now, you still feel the bumps because its still a body on frame with a solid rear axle, but the impact gets absorbed more.

It did raise the front by a little bit, but the nose high is not too much. Almost level.

My limited had the AVS suspension, but it was a easy and simple swap, and there are no lights that come on.

I'll post some pics here shortly

 

[hussch85]

Okay, so update: @hussch85

Installed the fronts now too. The main difference I see after installing the full set is that the bumps as not as bad. Before, you would really feel strong jolts. Now, you still feel the bumps because its still a body on frame with a solid rear axle, but the impact gets absorbed more.

It did raise the front by a little bit, but the nose high is not too much. Almost level.

My limited had the AVS suspension, but it was a easy and simple swap, and there are no lights that come on.

I'll post some pics here shortly

Nice. Thanks for the update!

Was it significant enough to justify the process and cost ? Any other workarounds to remove th avs ?

Anxiously waiting on updates

 

[CBR]

Nice. Thanks for the update!

Was it significant enough to justify the process and cost ? Any other workarounds to remove th avs ?

Anxiously waiting on updates

I'd say it was worth it. I'm quite pleased. The difference is noticeable over bumps/expansion joints. You still feel the bumps, but it doesn't feel as shocking or impactful if thats the right word. It becomes softer.

When I did the rears, the difference wasn't immediate. I felt like after 300-500 miles, it softened up even more. And i'm definitely not complaining anymore.

For the fronts, I've only put around 50 miles on it, and I expect the same. After a couple hundred it will soften up even more.

I specifically went for the fox 2.0's vs the 2.5's because of the additional comfort.

So now, my build on my Limited is: 265/70/r18 michelin defender ltx ms2, with the TRD wheels, and fox 2.0 shocks setup

But also, it depends on your budget. I was really irritated by the ride quality since I had gotten it. In total, I invested about $3k to get this done with parts and labor and warranty.

 

[CBR]

Pictures

 

[hussch85]

Pictures

Congrats ! It looks great. Im running trd pro 18”s w falken wildpeak at3w

Along w the wescott precollar lift. Which im assuming ill remove if/when i get the fox swap. Would probably have to do tires like the michellin for comfort over aesthetic

Last question: was the swap a straight swap or tricky avs delete/removal had to be done ?

 

[CBR]

Congrats ! It looks great. Im running trd pro 18”s w falken wildpeak at3w

Along w the wescott precollar lift. Which im assuming ill remove if/when i get the fox swap. Would probably have to do tires like the michellin for comfort over aesthetic

Last question: was the swap a straight swap or tricky avs delete/removal had to be done ?

Thanks!

Straight swap, no avs complications

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