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Trying to decide between Falken wildpeak AT4w or Nitto Terra grappler g3. I heard good things about both but who has them and how are they? Going on a TRD ORP. Sticking with 265/70/19 for now. Prob spend 90% on road highway
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I have significant experience with 3 tires over a 20 year time frame. I can confirm to you without any question the Falcon Wildpeaks AT4W’s are the best tire i have ran yet.

Between 2 vehicles and over 500,000 km of experience i would put the 3 brands I ran in this order of best to worst.

Falcon Wildpeaks
- extremely grippy on hot surfaces, handles ice substantially better then any other (un studded) tire i have used and has tread life comparable to the other 2 brands i have used (60,000 km before needing replacement)

Duratracs
- extremely grippy in hot conditions but seemed to struggle slightly in highway rain or heavy rain conditions (prone to hydroplane). Decent winter traction but not as good as the Wildpeaks. Usually got about 60,000 km before changes but should have really changed closer to 50,000 - 55,000.

KO2
- worst tire i have ever ran. I dont know how they are even still a contender in the off road community. Long tire life was about all i can vouch for with this tire other then the fact that applying heavy break pressure in hot or frozen conditions seems to activate lock up substantially sooner then the other 2 brands. Ko2 i would only recommend to mall crawlers wanting to always maintain 35+ PSI and maybe get 90,000 km a set if they are lucky.
 
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duratracs, i wouldnt recommend. they get progressively louder on road after about 1/4 life. only have had them on the tundra and they are getting louder at 18k miles. winter performance in ND is sorely lacking, grip during summer is meh, easily break traction with the tundra if you are not careful.

they were great on the 2018 tundra but i think something changed between our 2018 and 2023 tundra. didnt have the same issues with the duratracs on the 2018 as i do on the 2023 tundra. also the 2018 didnt start getting louder until around 1/2 life.

but then again the wife has changed her outlook on tires, so no longer cares about the off road rugged look and wants more winter performance for ND winters. so i am looking at either the dueler a/t ascent or defender ltx ms2.

she really cant do pheasant hunting anymore after her knee surgery so we no longer need that type of tire anymore on her truck. duratracs are more off road a/t tire whereas we are looking more for an on road a/t tire at worse (dueler a/t ascent) or i should just stay with the defender ltx ms2.

i know i will be getting those for the new platinum 4runner, the oem grantrek's still suck from when they were on the 2014 4runner limited as oem's.
 

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So far so good on the wildpeaks. Set at 32 psi they're comfy and relatively quiet. Mine are SL rated. Went great in the snow.
 

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Aren’t the Wildpeaks heavy? Especially when compared to the G3s? Or the Toyo.
 

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Aren’t the Wildpeaks heavy? Especially when compared to the G3s? Or the Toyo.
Yes, going to a 275 wild peak from a 265 factory tire on my 2019 Gen 5 i saw a 1.5 MPG drop difference. I then switched last year to a 285 from a 275 wildpeak and have seen another 1MPG drop again.

the wild peak 265 is a bit heavier but not enough in my opinion to massively effect millage.
 

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Does that extra weight and rigidity make for a rougher ride? And louder?
 

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I'm tellin ya, plain old Michelin LTX Defender MS2 are the tires you
want all the time, and they do well enough offroad on nearly everything.

if you are gonna be on pavement 90% the time these can't be beat imho
My 99 4runner has worn Michelin LTX it's whole life and got me thru pretty
deep mud and bony rocks and deep sand without much fuss.

yes of course you can pinpoint a situation on paper where they might not
be ideal. real world I've gone all over with them and I'm not jonesing for
something 'more aggressive looking' I want an all rounder and these do it.

snow, mud, sand, severe ? drop the pressure they'll respond
 

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Does that extra weight and rigidity make for a rougher ride? And louder?
No, i see no real difference in ride quality between tire brands. The Duratracs were a bit noisy for me but nothing unbearable.

I find tire weight and ply and rating dont really have much bearing, or enough bearing to change the rode significantly enough to notice unless your a professional driver of some sort. Ride comfort on tires is going to come down to your PSI generally from my experience.

I should also mention i do significant off road miles with my rigs, mostly log roads and bush with occasional rock with the long highways in between to get there. All iv ever run are off roaders, with the right PSI they have got me through ungodly terrain.
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