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[CMill4Runner]

Is there a list of the differences somewhere for the different lifts? From what I've read the Pro with Fox suspension 1in higher, Trailhunter has OME and not sure how much lift there, TRD Off road is a little higher than an SR5 not sure how much, and finally the TRD Hybrid sits higher than TRD non Hybrid? I'm curious as I want to level or lift our TRDOR Hybrid but not too crazy.

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[Turbo8]

Is there a list of the differences somewhere for the different lifts? From what I've read the Pro with Fox suspension 1in higher, Trailhunter has OME and not sure how much lift there, TRD Off road is a little higher than an SR5 not sure how much, and finally the TRD Hybrid sits higher than TRD non Hybrid? I'm curious as I want to level or lift our TRDOR Hybrid but not too crazy.

Yeah, look at the specs on the Toyota website.

 

[mfoga]

Somehow its got 1" lift but only .4" taller than an ORP and 1.4" taller than SR5 and this is what is says when you search this s what chatgtp comes up with.
2026 4Runner TRD Pro Suspension Upgrades:

• Factory Lift: Approx. 0.5-inch higher than TRD Off-Road, utilizing specific TRD-tuned springs.

It seems like the clearance would partially be due to from what I can tell the pro doesnt come with an air dam.

 

[CMill4Runner]

Yeah, look at the specs on the Toyota website.

That's ground clearance not lift, I'm looking for actual lift values.

 

[mfoga]

I guessing the .5 value I found I is difference between the PRO and TRD Off road, the rest are likely just tire size difference. That is assuming the height spec on Toyota is correct. I can say it was on the TRD off road. I physically measured a couple before I bought to insure everything would fit in garage. I guess it would be interesting to get someone with a bone stock Pro to verify the height.

 

[MikeD]

That's ground clearance not lift, I'm looking for actual lift values.

Honest question: what does "actual lift values" mean? Wouldn't it have to be relative to something and wouldn't ground clearance be at least a proxy for what the relative measure must be related to? I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I seriously want to understand. (Also ref this post I made on related topic: Real/Practical Differences between TRD OR and PRO/TH Suspensions

 

[mfoga]

Honest question: what does "actual lift values" mean? Wouldn't it have to be relative to something and wouldn't ground clearance be at least a proxy for what the relative measure must be related to? I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I seriously want to understand. (Also ref this post I made on related topic: Real/Practical Differences between TRD OR and PRO/TH Suspensions

Would not over all height be a better measurement since it's also listed on the Toyota Website? Ground clearance is 1" between the PRO and ORP but the overall height is only .4". That tells me it's not purely the height of vehicle that making the ground clearance difference. They use same tire size so it's the easiest comparison and you can compare hybrid to hybrid.

 

[MikeD]

Would not over all height be a better measurement since it's also listed on the Toyota Website? Ground clearance is 1" between the PRO and ORP but the overall height is only .4". That tells me it's not purely the height of vehicle that making the ground clearance difference. They use same tire size so it's the easiest comparison and you can compare hybrid to hybrid.

Yep. And that is what my linked post says. And I'm still trying to understand and thought that if there is such a thing as "actual lift value" it might aid my understanding.
Side note to anyone who reads the details of my linked post: my tires are actually 285/75R18 which explains the difference in diff ground clearance that I was confused about there. (I ordered and paid for 285/70 and thought that is what I had:>)

 

[Nodak]

i would go by ground clearance (and approach/departure angle and breakover) since that is the most useful stat for off roading.

the biggest problem you will have is wheel hardware clearance since the pumpkin (i think) is no longer the lowest spot on the vehicle.

 

[CMill4Runner]

Honest question: what does "actual lift values" mean? Wouldn't it have to be relative to something and wouldn't ground clearance be at least a proxy for what the relative measure must be related to? I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I seriously want to understand. (Also ref this post I made on related topic: Real/Practical Differences between TRD OR and PRO/TH Suspensions

Ground clearance doesn't define suspension lift because of tire size. So as an example as I don't know the suspension lift differences a TRDOR has .5 inch(guess) more suspension lift and the tires 265's vs 245's size are .5 inch taller. Ground clearance should be about .75 more in ground clearance than an SR5 but that's not the actual .5 inch suspension lift value. Throw on a set of 285's and you have another .25 inches of ground clearance with no suspension lift changes, this is why ground clearance doesn't define suspension lift.

 

[MikeD]

Ground clearance doesn't define suspension lift because of tire size. So as an example as I don't know the suspension lift differences a TRDOR has .5 inch(guess) more suspension lift and the tires 265's vs 245's size are .5 inch taller. Ground clearance should be about .75 more in ground clearance than an SR5 but that's not the actual .5 inch suspension lift value. Throw on a set of 285's and you have another .25 inches of ground clearance with no suspension lift changes, this is why ground clearance doesn't define suspension lift.

I've researched your question of "actual lift value" without success. So I decided to measure my TRD ORP Bilstein shocks - this is measured at "full droop" without tire/wheel mounted so it's probably not very helpful but it is a data point.
What would be interesting for this discussion is a measurement of stock THunter & PRO & TRD OR & SR5 shock lengths under "curb" load. (recognizing that there are differences in weight between the trims). I may go crawl under a THunter at the local dealer and do this:>)
(BTW - Since this is a THunter originated thread, I am also curious how the THunter Old Man Emu set up differs from the OME MT64 kit 2135. Am going to ask ARB)
But, FWIW (not much?) the TRD OR front and rear shock lengths while mounted and '"drooped":
Rear: 20.5"

From bottom of upper mounting location:

Front: ~23.5" to top of spring:

Lastly:
Although it is argued that ground clearance has issues because of tire size differences, since the stock THunter, PRO and TRD OR have the same tire size, it seems to me that the ground clearance number between them is pertinent. My current hypothesis is that the 1" specified difference between THunter & TRD OR comes from the length of the shocks - hence my (flawed) measurements and suggestion for better measurements of the different trims.
If my logic is flawed, can someone point that out and explain why? Thanks

 

[MikeD]

...I am also curious how the THunter Old Man Emu set up differs from the OME MT64 kit 2135. Am going to ask ARB)

Really quick answer from ARB:

"The MT64's are a 3in front and 2in rear lift on non-factory lifted vehicles. You will still see a difference in height and ride quality from the stock Trailhunter suspension; however, the height difference won't be as high as a non Trailhunter. You'd likely see about a 1.5-2in increase to the front and about a .5-1in height change to the rear. The stock Trailhunter struts are not preload adjustable like the MT64's are so you to have the benefit of height adjustability from the MT's. The main suspension components are essentially plug and play, so we don't provide instructions for those. However, the more specialty components like UCA's, brake line spacer, and sway bar spacer will come with their own sets of instructions in the packaging. As for dimensions, I only have the open and closed lengths. The MT64996013 is 24.7in open and 19in closed. The MT64601052 is 26.1in open and 16.5in closed.​

 

[mcd_ovrlnd]

When they offer all this other brand stuff to be OEM’d I generally believe that you aren’t getting the same product as if you bought if after market. I don’t believe my Toyo tires that came stock on my TRD PRO are the same exact tire if I bought it aftermarket. I believe Toyo makes a version specifically for Toyota. Just my general sense. I really wonder if it’s better saving the $12k and doing the mods yourself. I think you may get more quality gear.

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