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The brakes themselves are probably fine.

Toyota uses soft NAO brake pad material on its cars.

If you want more bite and heat fade resistance, use semi-metallic brake pads and upgrade the fluid to DOT4 LV.

Ignore the white label Chinese sourced stuff like "Power Stop/Brake/Break/Dragon".
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Not sure on your towing numbers but towing a race car and other equipment seems like it would be too much for the 4Runner and keeping it within safe boundaries for handling and braking.
The car is 2900lb, the trailer is 1550 lb open deck and tools/fuel may be about 100lb well within all limits of the 6th gen 4runner
 

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I also have mine for a year, have close to 50 yrs. driving experience including heavy equipment and have built custom extreme rock crawlers including the one below and I can tell you, these brakes are not ideal.

I also have found some people like to post without ever adding any content. (In General)


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I have no issues with the stopping power off my 4Runner. It doesn’t matter how many years eaperience you have with rock crawlers and heavy machinery. You just posted a picture of a Dodge. That’s enough for me to disregard anything you say lol
 

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I have no issues with the stopping power off my 4Runner. It doesn’t matter how many years eaperience you have with rock crawlers and heavy machinery. You just posted a picture of a Dodge. That’s enough for me to disregard anything you say lol

OK, good logic.


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Being that it is a street vehicle designed for light off-roading… the brakes are designed to do just that. Not tailgate a Porsche at 80mph on the highway or go cliff diving down the Alps. Any added weight will of course make it not perform as it was but you changed the chemistry of the vehicle. As soon as you did that you really can’t complain anymore. Plus the amount of strenuous brake tests this vehicle has gone through to pass through Toyota engineering is more than enough to make me feel warm and fuzzy inside when I hit the brake pedal. That being said I think it is a little stiff but I come from a heavy truck which is just an opinion.
These brakes are MORE than ideal - coming from someone who is practical with the vehicle.
 

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Also think OP is way overthinking things.... these brakes suck compared to the 10 piston carbon brakes on my lambo..... Nah there just fine if you feel you have to do "something" braided brake lines, better fluid and a more aggressive pad. boom your done
 

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The brakes from the GX550 will probably bolt on, they are bigger and rated for 9000lbs of towing. 13.9" rotor vs 13.3".

Just because they might bolt on doesn't mean they will work correctly with everything else.
 

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Being that it is a street vehicle designed for light off-roading… the brakes are designed to do just that. Not tailgate a Porsche at 80mph on the highway or go cliff diving down the Alps. Any added weight will of course make it not perform as it was but you changed the chemistry of the vehicle. As soon as you did that you really can’t complain anymore. Plus the amount of strenuous brake tests this vehicle has gone through to pass through Toyota engineering is more than enough to make me feel warm and fuzzy inside when I hit the brake pedal. That being said I think it is a little stiff but I come from a heavy truck which is just an opinion.
These brakes are MORE than ideal - coming from someone who is practical with the vehicle.

I never said the brakes are bad, just said less than desirable.

As far as the above, they advertise the Pro to be able to jump and do high speed terrain, does that sound like a light off-road package, and I made a post last year about this subject before I added the additional weight, and I still believe them to be less than desirable.

I've been in situations hanging off a rock face where you need every bit of brake you can get and buying a vehicle that can "jump" you would think the brakes would be better, if they work for you, great.

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Repeating, I find the pedal mushy, requiring more travel than is comfortable. Hence I just bought new rotors and pads. No SS lines. We will see if thats all that’s required to improve my sense of linear, progressive and precisely adjustable brake pressure to hover above the ABS threshold.

Not complicated

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Repeating, I find the pedal mushy, requiring more travel than is comfortable. Hence I just bought new rotors and pads. No SS lines. We will see if thats all that’s required to improve my sense of linear, progressive and precisely adjustable brake pressure to hover above the ABS threshold.

Not complicated

JM
Read this article: https://www.fcpeuro.com/blog/how-to-choose-the-best-brake-pads-for-your-car

If you want firm brake power, switch to semi-metallics.

I had them on my previous car, a BMW 340i.

Large 14" front brakes and dual piston brembo calipers with semi-metallic pads meant it would stop no matter what I threw at it in terms of mountain driving.
 

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Having had multiple race cars(Won Pikes Peak Exhibition class 2012, 2cnd in Unlimited in 2014 behind Roman Dumas,) over 8 race bikes, and having run Baja, Goodwood FOS 2017, and continued track day events in Porsche’s primarily but not exclusively ā€˜(CT5-V ā€˜23 Blackwing with Carbon Ceramic brakes,) I have my own ass dyno for when brakes are just adequate vs comforting, and unlikely to fail. Bear in mind that EPA tests and OEM braking specifications tend to reflect driving across Kansas rather than running up and down Caesar’s Head, Tail of the Dragon, Smokey Mountain Parkway, The Continental Divide Etc.

I never want to think about my brakes. And whenever I rent a car, I drive very differently because the brakes, suspension, transmission, alignment are all junk.


Even my wife says she wonders if the 4Runner will stop in time behind a Porsche or any Regeneration braking EV.

just my preference

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I’m really not seeing or feeling what some of you are saying and talking about. No stopping issues with mine and I have pretty heavy tires and wheels. I think you folks are thinking way too deeply. Maybe not buy one if you’re unhappy with the braking system (generally speaking)
 
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I bought the 4Runner for my wife and since we have a proper off road rig, I just wanted her daily driver to be safe as possible. We’re both used to powerful fade free brakes so she could easily need another 30-40’ to stop at 75-80mph especially in the wet which is frequent here in the Low Country.
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