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Hope that's the case, but the Supra is also a sports car, so the take rate probably higher for a manual transmission than it is for the 4Runner.

Has anyone seen any reason provided by Toyota as to why the Tacoma gets the manual but not the 4Runner? Same powertrain and platform so I woulda thought it'd be easy to just give an extra transmission option ??‍♂
 

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Bummer. Initially was going to get a manual Tacoma but decided to wait and see after looking at the new 4Runner. Now with the possibility of a manual being available in the future, I may keep holding my breath. Could use a new truck/suv but not in a rush...
 

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Hope that's the case, but the Supra is also a sports car, so the take rate probably higher for a manual transmission than it is for the 4Runner.

Has anyone seen any reason provided by Toyota as to why the Tacoma gets the manual but not the 4Runner? Same powertrain and platform so I woulda thought it'd be easy to just give an extra transmission option ??‍♂
Mostly due to extra cost to get the transmission/engine combo certified. Each different combo needs to go through certification for each vehicle, so even though it went through all the testing for the Tacoma, to put that same powertrain combo into the 4Runner requires Toyota to do the same certifications for the 4Runner.

The feeling by Toyota probably is that there are more people who would by a manual Tacomo than there are people wanting a manual 4Runner I guess. It's basically Toyota doesn't deem it worth the money to invest in all the regulatory stuff to get a manual 4Runner out.

I can say for myself, if there was a new manual 4Runner, I'd be all over it.
 

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How cool a Gen 1 tribute with a manual be? Sure, there wouldn't a line waiting for a 6MT (or anything manual on any vehicle today) but for guys like me that still have a manual in the garage it would be cool. My first 4Runner was a '95 V6 auto and it at speeds it was just a mighty thirsty snail. If Toyota grows some balls and builds a production 6MT 4Runner, it may be the last new vehicle I will purchase, for a long while at least.

My other option will be a 7MT Bronco. I don't think the Bronco is a close competitor to the 4Runner but the manual transmission is enough of a cool factor to trip that switch. Keeping a close eye on the market developments...
 

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I'm hoping it happens. Though I wouldn't bet on it happening. But I would 100% get one of it did. I mean, assuming it was an option in the SR5, and now some super expensive package where you can only get it if you get $15,000 worth of other unwanted accessories. I had manual daily drivers for years from 2004 to 2016 and i miss it a lot. The only thing that would make me nervous would be launching my boat at the boat ramp with a manual. I don't want to end up on youtube!
 

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So I periodically bring this up in 4Runner communities around the internet. Doing my part to try to "drum up" interest.

The response is funny. Sometimes, people are like "oh yes that would be awesome!" and other times people's response is along the lines of "No way that would be terrible, manual in traffic is the worst". Like us pro-manual folks aren't suggesting that Toyota make ONLY manual 4Runners, just that they ALSO make manual 4Runners :D

Its too bad. I'm trying to convince myself that the manual bronco isn't that bad looking... but it is
 
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the only BoF vehicle with a manual is the taco, but i expect this gen taco will be the last.

true sport cars are expected to have manual mostly but even now a days, the benefit of a manual vs a good auto, the auto will be faster in the long run. auto's can shift up/down faster than manual's (with paddle shifters) and keep power to the ground and can endure more torque/hp than most manual's today

just look at F1, dont see any true manual's there, they are semi-automatics (no clutch)

the advantage of a manual was surpassed a few decades ago by auto's.

plus 99% of the buying public for toyota's dont want a manual so the ROI on manuals it a loss leader for toyota now a days.
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