PPF wrap or not?

[glocke12]

For me, well worth it. Xpel Stealth full wrap. I live on NW Montana and it has already protected the Pro from rock chips, branch scratches, etc. Plus, the paint on these things is so soft and scratches so easily, so for me, it's a huge peace of mind. And, it just looks bad ass...

geez that looks awesome..if only I had 6k-7k to do that...

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[Tarekith]

My only issue with PPF is that at some point if you’re keeping your vehicle for a long time it’s going to be dinged and scraped up and need replacing. So not only are you paying to have PPF installed initially, then you need to pay to have it removed, and then pay to have more put on? Seems like it would be cheaper to just repaint the affected parts after a few years.

I do think from an aesthetic point of view the satin and matte wraps look nice when new though.

 

[zgreen]

Yeah the look of that satin finish is unbeatable!!! I see you did your fenders as well ( I'm on the fence with fenders ).
Mine is in underground color so I probably keep fenders factory.
BTW NW Montana is awesome!!! GNP in one of my favorite places.

Thanks! I would suggest you get the fenders done as well. The tires really kick up a lot of rocks and road debris, which hit the rear fenders straight on. The PPF has really protected them.

It is pretty awesome up here. Was in Glacier on Sunday to head up to Bowman lake to see the fall colors. It's really special to be up here and close to the park. Have a good one!

 

[zgreen]

I have had my Tundra for 12.5 years, since it was new. I have never ceramic coated it, no protection on the hood, nada. I have run it through automatic washes, with brushes, countless times.

Is the paint perfect? Nope. But it's a 2013 with almost 200k miles on it. The paint is still nice enough that exactly zero dollars has been knocked off the resale value.

So to me, it is not worth it. I just don't see the value. This thread is full of people that feel the exact opposite and I am not saying they're wrong in any way. They see value, or they just want/like it.

You had the good paint 12.5 years ago! The paint today is so soft, literally just looking at it makes a mark. Mine was delivered with so many swirls, scratches, etc. The dealer spent $2k to repaint the hood from the damage and pay a local guy to do a full paint correction. Even with all of that, it still wasn't where it should be. That's one of the reason's I decided on the PPF, along with the crazy winters up here.

 

[zgreen]

geez that looks awesome..if only I had 6k-7k to do that...

It is expensive for sure, but I hope to have it for the next 10 years. We'll see!

 

[papadop88]

To some it's worth it, to others it doesn't make sense. Vinyl wrapping cars started as a cheap way to change the color of your car, particularly to "murder out" (matte black) higher end vehicles. Then that marketing machine took off and it turned it into paint protection.

PPF is basically the same but thicker and allows you to keep your color. If done right, it's hard to tell its on there. PPFing a full car, however, is absolutely worhtless. You just need it for high impact exposed areas such as hood, flares, bumpers. Where in the hell are you going on the daily that someone would need their doors PPF'd. If you're overlanding/offroading, sure, but for the average person who DOESN'T offroad their vehicles, it's a waste of money...unless you want a matte look and use a matte PPF. Again, it just depends on the person and their use case.

In my situation in Socal, with all the rock chips on our freeways, our bumpers and hoods do get chipped quite often...So in my case, I just did the front bumper and my gloss black flares. That's it.

For the amount someone could spend on full vehicle PPF to protect their rigs, they could have squirreled away that money in a regular CD earning 4% annually and if there's chips, scratches, down the road, spend it on paint correction at a fraction of the cost. But to each their own.

 

[JabbaJones]

Thanks! I would suggest you get the fenders done as well. The tires really kick up a lot of rocks and road debris, which hit the rear fenders straight on. The PPF has really protected them.

It is pretty awesome up here. Was in Glacier on Sunday to head up to Bowman lake to see the fall colors. It's really special to be up here and close to the park. Have a good one!

Did they finish that bridge work already? I hope you got some bearclaw

Thanks! I would suggest you get the fenders done as well. The tires really kick up a lot of rocks and road debris, which hit the rear fenders straight on. The PPF has really protected them.

It is pretty awesome up here. Was in Glacier on Sunday to head up to Bowman lake to see the fall colors. It's really special to be up here and close to the park. Have a good one!

I was up there in the Autumn of 2024 but they closed Polebridge bridge for vehicle traffic so I didn't make it to Bowman Lake. I hope you got few Huckleberry bearclaws from the Polebridge Mercantile!!!!. Kayaking on Bowman is just epic. So jealous!!!!

 

[zgreen]

To some it's worth it, to others it doesn't make sense. Vinyl wrapping cars started as a cheap way to change the color of your car, particularly to "murder out" (matte black) higher end vehicles. Then that marketing machine took off and it turned it into paint protection.

PPF is basically the same but thicker and allows you to keep your color. If done right, it's hard to tell its on there. PPFing a full car, however, is absolutely worhtless. You just need it for high impact exposed areas such as hood, flares, bumpers. Where in the hell are you going on the daily that someone would need their doors PPF'd. If you're overlanding/offroading, sure, but for the average person who DOESN'T offroad their vehicles, it's a waste of money...unless you want a matte look and use a matte PPF. Again, it just depends on the person and their use case.

In my situation in Socal, with all the rock chips on our freeways, our bumpers and hoods do get chipped quite often...So in my case, I just did the front bumper and my gloss black flares. That's it.

For the amount someone could spend on full vehicle PPF to protect their rigs, they could have squirreled away that money in a regular CD earning 4% annually and if there's chips, scratches, down the road, spend it on paint correction at a fraction of the cost. But to each their own.

Exactly. That's your opinion and use case, and it works for you! I am in rural NW Montana with a long winter and I go off roading. Also, I already got caught in a crazy marble size hail storm and I think the PPF helped it not look like a golf ball after. That's my use case and worth it for me.

 

[papadop88]

Exactly. That's your opinion and use case, and it works for you! I am in rural NW Montana with a long winter and I go off roading. Also, I already got caught in a crazy marble size hail storm and I think the PPF helped it not look like a golf ball after. That's my use case and worth it for me.

Bingo. If I lived in harsh winters, definitely worth it. In SoCal, not so much for a full job. Everyone just needs to determine what they need for where they live and what they do. But it can be a lifesaver...or it can be a waste of money.

 

[zgreen]

Did they finish that bridge work already? I hope you got some bearclaw

I was up there in the Autumn of 2024 but they closed Polebridge bridge for vehicle traffic so I didn't make it to Bowman Lake. I hope you got few Huckleberry bearclaws from the Polebridge Mercantile!!!!. Kayaking on Bowman is just epic. So jealous!!!!

You know the spot! Yes, the bridge is fixed up now and got some bear claws for sure!

 

[Dead Horse]

You had the good paint 12.5 years ago! The paint today is so soft, literally just looking at it makes a mark. Mine was delivered with so many swirls, scratches, etc. The dealer spent $2k to repaint the hood from the damage and pay a local guy to do a full paint correction. Even with all of that, it still wasn't where it should be. That's one of the reason's I decided on the PPF, along with the crazy winters up here.

Nah, it's not really the "good" paint. It chips off easier than anything I've ever owned. But most of my miles are fairly rural and I drive in the slow lane on the highway...I don't get a lot of the hood rash that others seem to.

My 94 Wrangler on the other hand...You'd have to throw bricks at that thing to get it to chip.

 

[TrappedinNYC]

PPF has a limited life (6-10 years depending on type/usage).

Def not worth it for many given the cost and all the negatives.
You can repaint an entire panel for a few hundred dollars, and people are not doing that on a regular basis because of rock chips. Touch up paint is cheap, but its your money if you wanna do it, I say go for it.

would you recommend doing a ceramic coating?

 

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would you recommend doing a ceramic coating?

Yes I did it myself. It’s fairly easy to do it on a new car

 

[zgreen]

would you recommend doing a ceramic coating?

Ceramic is awesome, but doesn't protect again rock chips, scratches, etc.

 

[AdFour]

Ceramic is awesome, but doesn't protect again rock chips, scratches, etc.

right. It’s about how overkill you’d want to go. Not even pff wrap protects from rocks that are large enough to dent

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