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A tiny rock took out my TRD Off Road stock Michelin LTX Trail tire.

This Saturday, doing the Diamond Creek Road in the Hualapai Nation at the Grand Canyon:

https://www.arizonahighways.com/diamond-creek-road

a 20 miles rugged, graded, gravel road to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and to the Colorado River.

Tires at 33PSI. Warning about 2/3 of the way to the river to immediately check tires, right rear tire loosing air. It went flat in about 30 mins.

No service at all in this area or in Peach Springs in the Hualapai Nation which is where the road starts. Didn't want to put the spare on in case I ended up losing another tire too.

Used compressor to fill the tire to 48 PSI and drive it out back to Peach Springs. By Peach Springs, it was at 26 PSI.

A very helpful driver of a bus that takes people from Peach Springs to the river for rafting trips and rafting pickups called his neighbor 12 miles away who has a small shop in tiny Truxton, AZ. We re-filled the tire again and I followed him to his shop in Truxton. We found a small leak in the middle of the tread. A small rock got in between the treads and punctured the tire at the base edge of the middle tread. He plugged it and we were on our way, but too late to try the road again and get to the Colorado River. Very disappointing.

2025 2026 4runner 6th gen FAIL: Stock Michelin LTX Trail tires on '25 TRD Off Road Premium on Diamond Creek Road Screenshot 2026-05-11 at 9.24.27 AM
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33psi offroad using highway tires was not a good idea. Especially considering you have a compressor.
Thanks. A graded, gravel road is "off-road"? OK. Check out some YouTube videos about this road and the cars that do it routinely, no problem. What tire pressure would you have recommended?
 

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Thanks. A graded, gravel road is "off-road"? OK. Check out some YouTube videos about this road and the cars that do it routinely, no problem. What tire pressure would you have recommended?
Yes a gravel road is offroad. I would be running 25psi max on these crap highway tires. I dont care what other people routinely do.
 
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Yes a gravel road is offroad. I would be running 25psi max on these crap highway tires. I dont care what other people routinely do.
So, we're agreed about those crap highway tires that came with your ORP.

Which tires did you replace your crap ORP highway tires with?
 
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So, we're agreed about those crap highway tires that came with your ORP.

Which tires did you replace your crap ORP highway tires with?
Havent replaced them yet since this is the wife's ride and she doesnt take it offroad, but I will be putting on Mickey Thompson Baja Boss when these wear out. I had them on my GX460 and they are the best AT tire I have ever had, and I have had them all.

My offroad rig is my 2026 Tundra and my KRX UTV and I am putting the Baja Boss on the tundra in the next couple weeks.
 
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Havent replaced them yet since this is the wife's ride and she doesnt take it offroad, but I will be putting on Mickey Thompson Baja Boss when these wear out. I had them on my GX460 and they are the best AT tire I have ever had, and I have had them all.

My offroad rig is my 2026 Tundra and my KRX UTV and I am putting the Baja Boss on the tundra in the next couple weeks.
An Off Road Premium, but doesn't take it offroad?
 

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Sorry to hear about the tire issues. Sounds like it would have been a fun day. We can all argue about tire choice and air down as the day is long. My advice, if you are carrying a compressor, carry a sidewall repair and tire plug repair kit. You could have plugged the tire and aired back up and kept going. Easy peasey.
 

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Toyota OEM tires are knock off junk. The Pro's toyo's have some of the weakest sidewall's I've ever seen and were replaced within 2 weeks of purchasing the 4 Runner.

Gotta be completely honest, I always wanted a 4 Runner because of the quality and reliability, I'm not completely sold on the quality part so much anymore.






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Toyota OEM tires are knock off junk. The Pro's toyo's have some of the weakest sidewall's I've ever seen and were replaced within 2 weeks of purchasing the 4 Runner.

Gotta be completely honest, I always wanted a 4 Runner because of the quality and reliability, I'm not completely sold on the quality part so much anymore.






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OEM tires have always been crap. All OEMs.
 

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OEM tires have always been crap. All OEMs.
I'm not too sure about that one, I lease a new car for the Mrs. every 3 years and never had an issue with OEM tires before albeit they are not offroad vehicles but I've never had to replace any within 30K miles on them.
 

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Toyota OEM tires are knock off junk. The Pro's toyo's have some of the weakest sidewall's I've ever seen and were replaced within 2 weeks of purchasing the 4 Runner.

Gotta be completely honest, I always wanted a 4 Runner because of the quality and reliability, I'm not completely sold on the quality part so much anymore.






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Yes OEM toyos only have 13/32 tread and 2 ply sidewalk, so yeah, not ideal at all. Nice tire for just the road though.
 

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Day after I bought my OR I went straight to the tire shop and put on a set of Wildpeak AT4s. I wouldn't use the stock tires for anything but pavement...
 
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Sorry to hear about the tire issues. Sounds like it would have been a fun day. We can all argue about tire choice and air down as the day is long. My advice, if you are carrying a compressor, carry a sidewall repair and tire plug repair kit. You could have plugged the tire and aired back up and kept going. Easy peasey.
Thanks. Live and learn.
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