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My beatsonic kit came in a couple days ago. Looks good physically, all nice connectors & harnesses and pre-wired camera button largely duplicating what I already did manually when I first installed the existing "Anytime Backup" kit and front camera relay switch.

https://www.4runner6g.com/forum/threads/anyone-tried-this-anytime-front-bumper-camera-on-sr5.6140/

https://www.4runner6g.com/forum/thr...me-front-bumper-camera-on-sr5.6140/post-81027

That worked for everything except the front camera. I got the anytime camera button working including the button backlight on the dash lights dimmer circuit and the video signal switch relay connected to the reverse signal from the radio, so the camera button tells the radio to go into camera mode, and the relay switches depending on the shift lever.

But I couldn't find any pins on the radio that accept a composite analog video signal. The backup camera is a digital LVDS signal that connects through the square green connector, not a composite analog video signal on one of the pins in one of the 28 or 30-pin connectors. So the relay swites, but doesn't do anything. The backup camera doesn't go to the relay so the relay can't disconnect it, and there is no place to run the front camera signal into the radio.

I assumed that the only way to get a front camera would be to get an actual Toyota front camera from one of the higher trim levels, and you would need male & female of the green lvds connector which you cannot buy yet, and you would need a way to switch 4 to 6 wires of high speed digital signals & power, not a simple relay. Even a 4-pole relay probably wouldn't be good enough.

So I am pretty curious how this new beatsonic kit can possibly work. It physically doesn't have any connectors for the green lvds connector. It just has 30-pin and rca plugs the same as the old kits for 5th gen and earlier, and most any other car. So I can only assume that the way it works is they found not only a pin on the new radio that still accepts the old composite video even though the factory cameras are all lvds now on totally different special connectors, and they must also have found a pin that tells the radio to switch itself from the digital input to the analog input.

IDK if I'll get to install it today but pretty soon. It's just that it's snowing where I am today and it'll get both stuffy and cold working inside the truck without it running. I have a garage but there's another car in it and I have to shovel before I move cars around to avoid making a bunch of ice.

But on the plus side I already did half the job before. I already have a camera mounted in the grill and partially routed the wire with the disconnect between the grill and the truck (which I already made use of that disconnect while installing a NYTOP bumper, so that worked out well), but not through the firewall yet. And the inside work (except getting the camera wire through the firewall) is all easy to do sitting right in either front seat.
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The kit works! A plain common composite analog camera displays on the radio screen.

A couple things:

* The camera button does both switching the radio into camera mode and switches to the front camera at the same time as a single function. You don't get the "anytime backup" function to look at the backup camera any time you want. Correction: It's programmable!


* The camera times out and switches itself back off after only 15 seconds. I suppose that's smart all in all so that the backup camera is always ready to come on in reverse by default. But 15 seconds is annoyingly short and I don't see a way to change it. Correction: It's programmable!

* They didn't wire up the button backlight. They supply a button with 2 cut wires just hanging off and the manual just leaves it up to you to supply them with power somehow. But in fact as I showed in the other thread above there are backlight pins right in the 28 pin connector they tapped in to. They could have included those wires no problem, and the button would be illumunated and dimmed along with all the other dash lights. It's annoying I'll have to splice those in myself.

But the important thing is, the camera actually works. Any ordinary composite ntsc camera. I'm not actually using the one they sell so it's not special.

There is also provision for a 2nd camera which could be useful for all kinds of things like individual front tire cams for crawling or high-up rear view for a trailer etc.

Really, since it's just a plain composite video signal, there are countless video tools for switching any number of feeds into one, combining multiple on one screen like on a security system, wireless adapters, or just letting a passenger watch a dvd while driving.

I had to stop working on it for today so I haven't tested everything yet, just going by the manual (paper only, I'll scan it later). But I did hook up a plain camera and see it work.
 
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I mean, he’s not wrong. You should have thought more about your purchase if you’re wanting to add camera. (No offense) seems like you wasted money on something you wanted more from.
I find it more sensible and a lot cheaper to create the vehicle you want. Some people buy a TRD pro and it's just a mall crawler, and that's fine with me. People can choose to do what they please with their money, and I'm happy for them.
 

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I find it more sensible and a lot cheaper to create the vehicle you want. Some people buy a TRD pro and it's just a mall crawler, and that's fine with me. People can choose to do what they please with their money, and I'm happy for them.
Agreed 100%. I bought a SR5 because I knew a lot of the "upgrades" you pay for in higher trims, I would switch out anyway with something aftermarket that I wanted more. The SR5 is the perfect base to build out the 4Runner you want exactly.

$43,000 for my SR5 + $5,000 in upgrades = $48,000 for a perfect set up for me.

Sure I don't have MTS, but truthfully for my purposes, I probably wouldn't touch that feature ever.
 

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Agreed 100%. I bought a SR5 because I knew a lot of the "upgrades" you pay for in higher trims, I would switch out anyway with something aftermarket that I wanted more. The SR5 is the perfect base to build out the 4Runner you want exactly.

$43,000 for my SR5 + $5,000 in upgrades = $48,000 for a perfect set up for me.

Sure I don't have MTS, but truthfully for my purposes, I probably wouldn't touch that feature ever.
What were your upgrades?
 

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What were your upgrades?
The ones that I rank the highest in terms of impact are (all of these added up was around $4600):
  • Wheels - Method 703's
  • Tires - Toyo Open Country AT3's 285/70r17
  • Leveling Kit - ReadyLift
  • Rock Sliders - Iron Ryno Fabrication
  • Tint all windows including windshield - Xpel XR Black
The other ones I have done that are small but creature comforts:
  • PPF the front
  • Tuxmats
  • Center console organizer
  • TRD skid plate
 

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What were your upgrades?
828findadventure on Youtube. 2025 4Runner SR5 4x4. We also have a 2025 Tacoma SR5, very happy with both. And yes, I have owned very high trim vehicles and frankly didn't use all the stuff, so I found it worthless.
 

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828findadventure on Youtube. 2025 4Runner SR5 4x4. We also have a 2025 Tacoma SR5, very happy with both. And yes, I have owned very high trim vehicles and frankly didn't use all the stuff, so I found it worthless.
I use your videos all the time. I ordered the hood insulation from your affiliate link (Kevin Miser on YouTube). Thanks for showcasing all the small upgrades on the 4Runner, they are a huge help and have guided a lot of little but sweet upgrades I have bought!
 

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I use your videos all the time. I ordered the hood insulation from your affiliate link (Kevin Miser on YouTube). Thanks for showcasing all the small upgrades on the 4Runner, they are a huge help and have guided a lot of little but sweet upgrades I have bought!
Thank you very much!! I have the plug and play front camera from Beat Sonic, and a Sxth Element intake to install soon. Videos coming soon
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