Getting rid of dealer installed vehicle's tracker

[pmedicj]

I’m genuinely curious so can someone explain what’s the issue is and why someone needs to go to these lengths?

I get the dealer gps that’s highly invasive and I would be pissed. Plus there certainly is an over reach with Toyota giving data to insurances and monitoring your driving but you can turn those functions off through the apps privacy settings and still use all of the handy and useful features.

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[127.0.0.1]

I’m genuinely curious so can someone explain what’s the issue is and why someone needs to go to these lengths?

I get the dealer gps that’s highly invasive and I would be pissed. Plus there certainly is an over reach with Toyota giving data to insurances and monitoring your driving but you can turn those functions off through the apps privacy settings and still use all of the handy and useful features.

paranoia

some people (not saying that about anyone here, no sir)
need a boogeyman to be afraid of, that they can control,
and feel good about at least one thing they can control in their lives.

but also it's the bulls*it all corporations are doing to make us
owners mere data harvesting product to get statistics out of and squeeze for more
cash. bottom line it's no longer the 4runner is the product, it is the buyer.

 

[JLR]

paranoia

some people (not saying that about anyone here, no sir)
need a boogeyman to be afraid of, that they can control,
and feel good about at least one thing they can control in their lives.

but also it's the bulls*it all corporations are doing to make us
owners mere data harvesting product to get statistics out of and squeeze for more
cash. bottom line it's no longer the 4runner is the product, it is the buyer.

Some people just like to have control over what personal data is harvested. Period.

 

[josiahg52]

I’m genuinely curious so can someone explain what’s the issue is and why someone needs to go to these lengths?

I get the dealer gps that’s highly invasive and I would be pissed. Plus there certainly is an over reach with Toyota giving data to insurances and monitoring your driving but you can turn those functions off through the apps privacy settings and still use all of the handy and useful features.

For me, it's the total lack of discrete control. It's all or nothing with Toyota. I understand that some data is necessary to be processed to provide some of the services. It's bad enough that basic features are complete hidden behind a subscription paywall under the guise of "cloud services", it's another that to provide any of those services, I have to consent to my data being used beyond what's absolutely required to provide those services. It's pretty clear what Toyota wants and there's evidence what they want to do with the data. I choose to not participate and remove any ability for them to gather data.

 

[mfoga]

paranoia

some people (not saying that about anyone here, no sir)
need a boogeyman to be afraid of, that they can control,
and feel good about at least one thing they can control in their lives.

but also it's the bulls*it all corporations are doing to make us
owners mere data harvesting product to get statistics out of and squeeze for more
cash. bottom line it's no longer the 4runner is the product, it is the buyer.

Yep the customer is the product, it had been that way for some time but most never knew it. Other it was a badge of honor to be the product (Nielsen homes) .

I kind of understand why but when they go to far it’s also problematic. Luckily there are places that force stricter privacy laws and in many cases companies will just use the strictest rules for everyone out of convenience and actually cost saving.

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