Alignment from Toyora Dealership

[emerson]

Had my Trailhunter alignment done at Toyora. Paid for full alignment but seem like only the toe was adjusted. 1.2 degrees camber ok?

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[josiahg52]

For comparison, I had my Trailhunter aligned at just under 3,000 miles. I initially brought it in simply to see where the alignment stood, but the shop wasn't happy with the initial measurements and recommended making adjustments.

The only guidance I gave them was to use minimal front (positive toe) toe-in. Otherwise, I left the alignment entirely to their experience and judgment. They've been doing this work for decades, and I don't know whether they consulted Toyota's specifications or simply aligned it as they thought best.

They ended up with 0° camber and +5.0° caster on both front wheels, with +0.055° toe per side (+0.11° total).

I don't know whether those settings are all within Toyota's published specifications, nor can I say whether your +1.2° camber is problematic. I just thought the difference in our measurements was interesting. Mine tracks straight, handles well, and I've had no complaints.

 

[emerson]

For comparison, I had my Trailhunter aligned at just under 3,000 miles. I initially brought it in simply to see where the alignment stood, but the shop wasn't happy with the initial measurements and recommended making adjustments.

The only guidance I gave them was to use minimal front (positive toe) toe-in. Otherwise, I left the alignment entirely to their experience and judgment. They've been doing this work for decades, and I don't know whether they consulted Toyota's specifications or simply aligned it as they thought best.

They ended up with 0° camber and +5.0° caster on both front wheels, with +0.055° toe per side (+0.11° total).

I don't know whether those settings are all within Toyota's published specifications, nor can I say whether your +1.2° camber is problematic. I just thought the difference in our measurements was interesting. Mine tracks straight, handles well, and I've had no complaints.

Drives really good. I should had them put it back in the rack for the camber. I just thought Toyota would had done it correct the first time.

 

[josiahg52]

I think it depends on what you mean by Toyota getting it right the first time.

If you're referring to the factory alignment, installing lift springs changes the suspension's operating geometry, potentially affecting camber, caster, and toe. Your current measurements wouldn't necessarily tell you how it was aligned from the factory.

If you're referring to the dealership alignment, everything on your final printout is green. Assuming the correct specifications were loaded, it's within Toyota's published tolerances. Most alignment shops aren't going to spend additional time adjusting measurements that are already within spec unless there's a reason to or the customer requests specific targets.

That doesn't necessarily mean those are the best possible settings for your particular suspension, but it does mean the dealership appears to have performed the alignment you requested.

For comparison, I had my Trailhunter aligned at around 3,000 miles, at factory ride height. My shop ended up with 0° camber and +5.0° caster on both sides. The only guidance I gave them was minimal positive front toe-in; otherwise, I left it to their judgment. For my M5, I'm more particular and specific.

If you want different results, particularly with a modified suspension, I'd suggest deciding what camber, caster, and toe settings you're trying to achieve and discussing those targets with the shop beforehand. Some shops will accommodate specific requests, while others prefer to work strictly to the published specifications.

An important question, if you had them put it back on the rack, do you know what would've you asked them to do differently?

 

[emerson]

I think it depends on what you mean by Toyota getting it right the first time.

If you're referring to the factory alignment, installing lift springs changes the suspension's operating geometry, potentially affecting camber, caster, and toe. Your current measurements wouldn't necessarily tell you how it was aligned from the factory.

If you're referring to the dealership alignment, everything on your final printout is green. Assuming the correct specifications were loaded, it's within Toyota's published tolerances. Most alignment shops aren't going to spend additional time adjusting measurements that are already within spec unless there's a reason to or the customer requests specific targets.

That doesn't necessarily mean those are the best possible settings for your particular suspension, but it does mean the dealership appears to have performed the alignment you requested.

For comparison, I had my Trailhunter aligned at around 3,000 miles, at factory ride height. My shop ended up with 0° camber and +5.0° caster on both sides. The only guidance I gave them was minimal positive front toe-in; otherwise, I left it to their judgment. For my M5, I'm more particular and specific.

If you want different results, particularly with a modified suspension, I'd suggest deciding what camber, caster, and toe settings you're trying to achieve and discussing those targets with the shop beforehand. Some shops will accommodate specific requests, while others prefer to work strictly to the published specifications.

An important question, if you had them put it back on the rack, do you know what would've you asked them to do differently?

Definitely the camber closer to 0 and caster forward so I can fit more aggressive offsets wheels.

 

[Joe Dirt]

Here is mine for comparison. With a 2 inch coil lift . They did this at Discount Tire.

 

[emerson]

Here is mine for comparison. With a 2 inch coil lift . They did this at Discount Tire.

Thank you for this. My service advisor getting me back on the rack tomorrow. I will bring this in for reference.

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