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Yeah, paint is an odd one. I had a 2015 Ford Edge that I drove on these roads for 5 years and went through auto-washes. The paint looked better on that vehicle than my Subaru did after 6 months. Filled with paint chips. Reddit/Forums were filled with people who hate Subaru paint for this reason.

I am with you. I used to spent 3 hours hand washing and detailing my WRX. Hard to find that time these days, which is why I was curious how Toyota paint was compared to Subaru.

Yeah. I spent $2000 ceramic coating my OBW and only hand wash. The paint on this vehicle has held up better than my WRX, which is nice. I try like heck to avoid auto-washes. When I drove my WRX from TX to NY it was unavoidable since I didn't want that salt sitting on my car.

Man, that color is a, choice. I sure hope it makes some folks happy, but I for one am still eyeing the '26 Trailhunter in Everest or Ice Cap.

Currently Everest is my top choice, but test drove a '25 Ice Cap and the storm trooper look was really vibing for me. Underground is also in the mix. Subaru has notoriously soft paint and Texas roads are terrible for rock chips. I got my Outback ceramic coated at a local place for $2000 when I...

I'm in Texas, so good there. I think I'm going to try and pitch the deal of $73,000 out the door and they need to swap the gloss black letters back to bronze. See if they bite. Again, zero rush to try a car, so I have time on my side.

Was too curious, so I had to crawl under the Outback and measure. From ground to rear diff is right about 10.5". The Y pipe from the exhaust hangs a touch lower at about 10". They have this thing pretty snugged up. There is a skid plate covering the transmission and oil pan, but I don't think...

Over the many, many, videos I've watched. The ORP, TRD Pro, and TH seem to all be capable. You get the disconnecting front sway bar in the TH the ORP premium does not have. I saw another thread you can add it to maybe the '26 for $1300.

It is interesting because when I searched to compare to my 2024 Outback Wilderness, I also came up with 10.1. My car is rated at 9.5, which I thought was odd because I'd think the 4Runner would be quite a bit higher than mine. I'm running 235/65/17 Falken Wildpeak At3ws, over the stock 225...

I am in no hurry. Maybe I just need to build exactly what I want and wait however long it takes. Because I hate gloss black.

Thanks for the info. Figured on the delivery, which I'm fine with. The other stuff is different. Both dealers near me add those inserts on all the Trailhunters, no clue why. The reason I like the TH is for the lack of gloss, please don't add more and charge me for it.

Tested an Ice Cap yesterday. Drove wonderful, but now I am starting the negotiating between two local dealers. TLDR; Do y'all consider paying MSRP to actually mean you don't pay for delivery? Just doc fee ($225) and tax 6.25%? MSRP from Toyota's site is $67,700. Sticker "SRP" is total of...

Local Subaru place tries this. They sneak it into the sales tax. Luckily, my sales person is good and he took it off for me, why I bought three cars from him. Just a shame you have to be this careful.

Great write up. I am currently researching 2026 4Runners for a purchase next year if interest rates get better. I ruled out the TRD Pro because of the hood scoop. I would much rather have snorkel noises over a shaking hood driving down the road. I also like the extra skid plate, air compressor...

Hey everyone. Please don't ban me, but I currently have a 2024 Subaru Outback Wilderness. I have wanted a Taco since back in 1999 and never made the switch to Toyota. Really considering getting a '26 4Runner Trailhunter, so this forum has been popping up a lot in my searching. Figured I'd...