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that survey is based on 5th gen models and older on longevity

the only thing i can find right off the bat is the smaller gas tank of 17.9 vs 19 on the 4R. using 91 would get you more mpg slightly making up the 1 gal difference which would equate to about same range you would get with a 17.9 vs 19 gal tank lc250 : 23 (combined) x 18 gal = 414 4R : 23...

i have no idea. outside of asking an engineer why one engine needs 91 and the same engine needs 87, there is no documentation stating the required difference in octane. i will try my google-fu and see if i can find anything.

the LC250 only comes in hybrid form, so you would have to compare the hybrid version of the 4runner, not the regular gas engine which only has 278 hp

lol and i am only at 37 miles on the 4R right now. not like i will be going WoT anytime soon to benefit that 20hp still need to do my 1000 miles break in plan :) then right after 1st oil change before 1200 miles then at 5k then every 5k

would it be easier to get a b&w tow and stow hitch? they have different variations of hitches that feature the tow & stow design

if 91 wasnt 30-50 cent more than 87 then its a no brainer (like the old days when it was maybe .10 or .20 cents higher than 87)

you can also compare oem size and see the safe zone of comparable sizes you can fit also (green zone)

https://tiresize.com/calculator/ and select the compare tab

this is very subjective (but the volume of cars in the survey helps sway) but each person will view it differently. i've seen people with toyota's swear they would never buy a toyota again after getting complete failure of a model and have better luck with one of the big 3 and i have seen the...

yes 4R = 87 LC250 = 91 and it gets worse mpg : LC250 22/25 4R 20/26 or 20/24 or 23/24 (hybrid) engine specs : LC250 : i-FORCE MAX 2.4L turbocharged inline 4-cylinder hybrid powertrain; 326 net combined hp @ 6000 rpm, 465 lb.-ft. @ 1700 rpm 4R : i-FORCE 2.4L turbocharged inline...

just a reminder if you add your vehicle to the toyota app before you can actually go thru the headunit process, the app will not let you correctly add the vehicle after you go thru the correct headunit procedure with your phone. DO NOT add the vehicle via vin in the toyota website or thru the...

2025 4R Platinum Heritage Blue @ 2025-10-13 10 months to the day of when i put my allocation reserve request and deposit down on 2024-12-13

going to be hard to top mine :)

20 hp and 14 ft-lbs is marginal at best for most people even care about. granted the price differential is maybe around $10 a tank of 87 vs 91 around me. $2.94 vs $3.45 best case pricing. if i did that on my 2014 4R x 249 fill ups over 12 yrs, thats a lot of money for 20hp and 14 ft-lbs that...

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had the dealer do it, but i would advised against it. they fucked it up but they are going to fix it. use dental floss or low test fishing line.

updated my first post with final bill of sale numbers and window sticker showing i got my invoice pricing. just a note, i redacted private info

update 2025-10-13 pics finally and leading off the best rear/ass end of a 2025 4Runner, removed the "4RUNNER" lettering