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Power rear window quirks

EL616

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Many of us have discovered the little quirk where the window lock also applies to the rear hatch window button on the center overhead console -- the window lock is typically meant to prevent children or dogs in the back from opening the backseat windows so it makes little sense that we'd ever need a lockout for a window button that's already only accessible from the front seats. But fine, lesson learned.

But in addition, it seems that you can't raise the rear window using the outside controls if any other door is open? You can lower it from the outside no problem, but not close it, and the truck will beep at you for what feels like 10 seconds if you try it. What is the thinking here?

Finally, if you try to pop the hatch while the rear window is down by any amount it will pop open an inch, but won't power lift. I suppose this makes sense from a safety standpoint if you had the window cracked and needed to get your dog out in a fire or something, but why won't the power lift operate with the window down? I understand in models without power lift it's probably bad to slam the door shut with the window half down, but the power lift is very gentle -- if I pop the hatch with the window down I then have to manually slam it shut, which seems like it would be worse for it than letting the power lift do it slowly. Say my window is just cracked a hair and I don't realize it and go to open the hatch -- it pops open an inch, I now cannot close the window OR power lift the hatch, and have to slam the hatch shut, close the window, then open the hatch again. This seems poorly thought out.

What is the design philosophy behind these limitations? Are there any other weird operational conditions I haven't discovered yet?
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As for the power hatch not being able to lift with the window down, that is a safety feature put in place because the theory is if someone or something (human or dog or whatever) is hanging out the window, it could become a safety concern. I'm not saying it's realistic, but alas, we live in the most rediculous litigious society to ever exist, so manufacturers are forced to implement. As for the other quirks, I'm sure they also have something to do with the legal department at Toyota. Simple as that.

For example, if you use a Carista to code your windows to open using your key fob (like I did)...you can lower them, but can't close them. Again, a safety feature just in case a child or animal is hanging out the window. Again, common sense isn't common anymore and we love to sue, so we cannot have nice things anymore.
 

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My thinking is that say you have some lumber or surfboards and you absentmindedly open the hatch via the in dash button or remote, it would be to protect both the material and the car.
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