25% tariff on ALL imported autos announced

[Tarekith]

Fingers crossed! It was not easy to find a ORP in Everest with all the options I wanted.

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[get.outside.75]

Once they leave the port, the price will be set (because that’s when the tariff is charged), but between docking and leaving customs, yep, the price could go up. My guess is that Toyota will just wait and raise the 2026 prices, since those are due pretty soon, and might even be reducing production of the 2025’s to avoid eating tariffs on them (which would explain some of the stock shortages).

And they are going to raise prices across the Toyota world board to cover the tariffs. They aren’t just going to raise the price of cars produced in Japan. People aren’t buying a Toyota or Lexus SUV at a 15-25%+ increase. They will do the math and spread it out to all cars, probably world wide to lesson the impact.

 

[youngolf]

'corporate' finance greedmongers......will use any excuse to raise prices any time, any year. covid was a good one for them. now, they are getting ahead of tariffs by loading up car lots. i have never in my life seen so many automobile carriers on the road. since july, they suddenly stopped. but it never ends well, when one person sticks his finger into the Free Market!! this USED to be a republican mantra. this is not good.

 

[Antless77]

The goal is to reduce the trade deficit. And instead of American car companies producing better products the rest of the world wants, this is a big government move to force feed the (American) population with our own bottom tier products. Ironically, this hurts American consumers the most and is bad for business. We live in a global economy. Why are people drooling over reshoring manufacturing jobs, they are going by way of automation anyway.

if they add a single cent on top of my already inflated 4Runner price I’m out. Drive my J-Vin Rav4 v6 a while longer till this circus moves on

Such discussions often lack visualization of the entire system: how flows are changing, where costs are incurred, and where the benefits for consumers are. Incidentally, for this purpose, it's sometimes useful to break everything down into diagrams and scenarios—for example, using integrate miro to see the entire economic picture, not just a specific market segment.

There are a few different issues tangled together here, and they don’t all move in the same direction.

On the trade deficit point, tariffs or reshoring policies do aim to shift production incentives, but they don’t automatically translate into “forcing consumers into worse products.” In a competitive market, domestic manufacturers still have to respond to what buyers actually want, otherwise they lose share regardless of policy. So quality pressure doesn’t disappear just because production moves geographically.

At the same time, you’re right that costs often get passed down at least partially to consumers in the short term. That’s usually the most immediate and visible effect, especially in segments like trucks and SUVs where margins and demand are already tight.

The reshoring argument isn’t really about avoiding automation either — most modern manufacturing is automated regardless of where it sits. The real debate is more about supply chain resilience, strategic industries, and domestic capacity rather than recreating old-school labor-heavy factories.

From a consumer standpoint though, your frustration is understandable. If pricing moves faster than perceived value, people will simply hold onto existing vehicles longer or shift used — that tends to be the real market response, regardless of policy intentions.

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