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I just want to confirm the 135 lb number Rellims gave above. From p204 of the manual: "4WD models: Do not exceed 135 lb. (62 kg) cargo weight on the roof luggage carrier. Place the cargo so that its weight is distributed evenly between both cross rails." I wonder if Toyota's determination of...

Ah! I think you're right about that. When I google "2025 4runner roof load rating" it says 165 lbs dynamic. And I presume you have to subtract the weight of the rack from that. So my thought of using the roof of the 4runner with a 6' length rack as a semi-substitute for a pickup bed is probably...

I may end up being one of those people, but I'm in AZ. Out of all the allocations this week to Phoenix-area dealers (every ORP prior to that is pre-sold), there is one ORP I like but it comes with the 3/4 roof rack, and the salesperson told me they cannot remove anything that's part of the...

Eric, does ARB not sell this rack to the general public and only to Toyota?

This is the sort of garbage the FTC's CARS rules would have prevented. It would have prevented "...two common types of illegal tactics consumers face when buying a car: bait-and-switch tactics and hidden junk fees." But after it was adopted and was going to go into effect last July, the NADA...

Just FYI, you need some seriously thick wire for 12V@40A (see this chart showing gauge vs distance of the run: https://dcthermal.com/wire-guidecharts/ ) For example, from the table, 8 gauge to go up to 4.5 feet. Thicker if longer than that.

Thanks for all the replies. I asked because a dealer told me their reservation process involves a non-refundable deposit and you must fill out a credit application, and provide a few identity verification things. I wanted to see if that was typical. Sounds like that is beyond what most dealers do.

What exactly is this QA hold? What's the quality problem they need to fix?

Gerg-G: would it be straightforward to add a column to the spreadsheet that shows the date that a new VIN/vehicle was added to the spreadsheet? I don't expect the column could be easily back-dated with that info for existing vehicles in the spreadsheet, but for new additions going forward?

I was told (I called 2 dealers and got the same answer) that once the ship hits port, the paperwork is frozen and no PIO changes are allowed. They have no process to make any configuration adjustments after that. Having said that, something like a cable package, which is just a plastic bag with...

The cross bars are a $420 option that probably nobody asks for, and nobody would buy them from you in the aftermarket. It shouldn't even be on the factory options list.

(My question refers to US dealerships) What all did you have to fill out and/or sign when you reserved your 4runner? I think this might vary by dealer (and possibly by state) but I'm not sure. How much was your deposit and is it refundable? Were you forced to accept use of Toyota financing...

Or any youtube reviewers who did that comparison. I want to see where it falls in the range of silver darkness/lightness/grayness.

In a "normal" market I could wait to see Everest in person, but I'm expecting I'll have maybe a 1-2 week window where I'm going to have to claim an incoming vehicle with a deposit, without ever driving it or seeing it, before the tariff increases go into effect. Maybe it will be longer than...

Congrats on your new 4runner. Everest was my preferred color (haven't seen it in person yet) before seeing your pics. Now I think I'm reconsidering. It just looks too dark in anything but direct sun. Not that it doesn't look good, but I have sworn off dark-colored vehicles because they are a...

I think you don't comprehend how complicated that question actually is for most vehicles. 25% of MSRP may be the case for any vehicle with zero US-manufactured parts and/or assembly locations of sub-assemblies.

25% of what is the question.

I don't think anyone was expecting Toyota to raise the price of their vehicles. The issue is the amount that US dealers pay (finance) Toyota after arrival in the US and including tariffs. At best, the article implies that Toyota will subsidize the tariff on behalf of its US dealers (not clear if...

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to provide those details!

Setting aside that the tariffs are not just on cars, and they are not done adding to the list yet, it's likely everything related to vehicles will go up because these are all inter-related: parts, accessories, fluids, service cost, insurance, used cars, etc. And higher sales taxes because of...