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  1. OEM Bilstein shocks part numbers (red Bilsteins with remote reservoirs) from 2025+ TRD Off-Road 6th Gen

    That is basically how I would describe the handling of the red Bilsteins on my ORH. On smooth highways and streets, it is very comfortable. Very Toyota-like. Nothing bad to say at all. Likewise, on slow off road trails I feel isolated from the bumps. It is when there are constant bumps that are...
  2. 2025 ORP harsh suspension

    25 OR Hybrid here. Generally speaking, on smooth, flat roads, the ride is fine. Very solid and Toyota-like. There are some roads however, say, an asphalt road that is broken up or a concrete highway with expansion strips when that is definitely not the case. When I had my 5G OR, I didn't notice...
  3. What's the weight of the RV trailer you tow?

    I tow a Sol Horizon with my 2025 Off Road Hybrid. Got the 6G specifically for towing the camper because as much as I loved it, my 5G Off Road was a wheezer when it came to towing. The weight of the Horizon is very close to your Eclipse and my 2025 tows it effortlessly. I know I have the hybrid...
  4. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    Lift the rear of the vehicle with a jack under the rear axle. I put a treated wood block between the jack pad and the axle housing. Support the frame on both sides, just in front of the trailing arm pivots. Then let the rear axle droop. You have to be high enough so that the tires aren't...
  5. OEM Bilstein shocks part numbers (red Bilsteins with remote reservoirs) from 2025+ TRD Off-Road 6th Gen

    I just removed the rear Red Bilsteins from my hybrid OR and put on Fox 2.5 shocks. I think Bilsteins are great, but for whatever reason the damping behavior of the factory rear Bilsteins (and perhaps other 6th gen trim rear shocks) is very, very wrong. The car is totally different with the...
  6. Tips to soften suspension on Limited Non-Hybrid

    FWIW, I just put the Fox 2.5 rear shocks (Fox P/N 987-24-058) on my OR Hybrid and it solved the issue that you and your wife are describing. Before the car was very jittery and uncomfortable on certain roads. Some people say "it's a truck - that's expected". I disagree. Yes, it's a truck, but...
  7. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    The springs dictate rear ride height, not shocks. Remember that in the rear, the shocks and springs are separate. Edit - If you see rear shocks saying that they are for 2" (for example) rear ride height, it just means they have a longer compressed length for vehicles that have had their ride...
  8. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    I got them from Poly Performance for $347 each with free shipping. Installation is pretty easy if you're comfortable jacking up a 4Runner high enough for the rear axle be at full droop. Good jack stands are a must.
  9. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    I'll start a separate thread this weekend, but just wanted to post here that my opinion seemed to be correct that the problem with the OR Red Bilsteins was primarily the rear axle. This may also be the case with other 6th Gen models that have similar ride issues. I put on a set of Fox...
  10. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    The OP says in his last paragraph of the first post that "Over all it doesn't ride that much different". That's not very comforting. As completely messed up the red Bilsteins are on the OR's, I wouldn't spend a dime on any factory shock from Toyota for this platform unless I was able to drive it...
  11. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    I'd consider those. Do they work with stock ride height (i.e., stock front UCA's?) My OR is completely stock and I plan on keeping it that way once I get it to ride like it's not a giant spring with wheels.
  12. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    I'm leaning towards under damped during high speed compression. Keep in mind that this is my opinion on my vehicle (OR Hybrid). Compression is what controls the unsprung mass and the rear axle seems worse than the front in this respect. On a big bump it feels like the rear axle oscillates so...
  13. Fox 2.0 Performance Series Shocks installed on 6th Gen 4Runner SR5

    I'm glad I'm not alone thinking the 6G OR ride is horrible on anything but smooth roads. I would buy the Fox 2.0's in heart beat if some other red Bilstein 6G OR owner would confirm that they calm down the ride. I really don't want to be disappointed with aftermarket shocks after spending $54k...
  14. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    Not to me, but I'm not sure. In just general observations compared to my 5th Gen (which was a similar vehicle with a similar purpose), the springs on the 6G are definitely much stiffer. I think this can be said for both non-Hybrids and hybrid models. If you grab the roof rails and shake the car...
  15. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    Umm. Thanks I guess. I read all 10 pages. The OP seemed to have my same complaint. He was called a troll and basically dumped on. Funny though, how MANY people and vehicle review outlets have the same reaction I did on certain roads...the 6G is under damped. I know it's a truck. When I drive an...
  16. Aftermarket suspension options to improve ride quality (TRD ORP)

    Has anyone installed the Fox 2.0 shocks/struts yet? I'm very curious about any improvement. I really like my hybrid OR, but on anything but smooth-as-glass highways, it's like an empty F350. I know about checking the tire pressures, etc. Mine are at 32psi. I'm an engineer who has worked on race...
  17. Brakes squeal horribly backing out of driveway each day

    I said it a few pages ago and I'll say it again...IMO it is a very aggressive semi-metallic pad material. It doesn't matter how much grease or shims or new OEM pads you throw at it, the squeal will probably come right back. If I was on the verge of selling the car (I'm not), I'd try a set of...
  18. Brakes squeal horribly backing out of driveway each day

    I see what you're saying, but the parking brake applies just to the rear brakes, right? I'm not sure the parking brake has much to do with the fronts squealing. My squeal is from the fronts when I back up. I'm not even going to bother taking mine to the dealer. I just put up with it. Brake...
  19. How to increase power for towing?

    I had a 5th Gen 4runner and now have a 6th Gen with the iForceMax. I tow a 3800 pound camper and made the trade specifically for a better tow vehicle. People don't seem to be aware that the hybrid 4runners have more low end grunt and more usable power than the old V6 WITH A SUPERCHARGER. Good...



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