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  1. Jerking motion going downhill (MAX equipped)

    I've encountered a very noticeable and bothersome jerking motion going downhill when the traction battery is fully charged, and shift lever is in "S" to help reduce speed. The attached pic shows the options I've enabled which helped diagnose the problem. The traction battery status (LHS panel 8...
  2. How long did it take to get your 4Runner from the day you left a deposit

    Yes. In my case on the $1K deposit, I made sure they put down final price as part of the contract. Turned out there were still weasel words in there, such as still requires manager's OK. But when the car arrived they honored the contract to the letter. So, as Nodak suggests, find a different dealer.
  3. 25' 4R TRD Pro - Alternator Broken

    Wow that's bad, sorry to hear. I said elsewhere my '25 off-road doesn't even have an alternator because it is hybrid with electricity generated that way. Wondering should the hybrid generation go belly-up, if remaining 12-volt juice can be used to drive to a nearby shop (like your situation) or...
  4. How long did it take to get your 4Runner from the day you left a deposit

    I got lucky. Exactly what I wanted (off-road, hybrid, nice color) was in the build process in late Feb. Put in a $1K deposit to make it mine, then picked up the car in late April, so 2-month wait. In retrospect, off-road premium might have been worth it due to AUX switches and alternator as...
  5. The "Brake Hold" feature is useful

    It's pg 228 in both the hard-copy that came with my vehicle as well as the copy I downloaded (also in April!). Probably the explanation from MikeD is right: hybrid vs. non-hybrid manuals.
  6. The "Brake Hold" feature is useful

    Interestingly, this feature is described on pg 228 of my manual. Perhaps there are different manual versions, depending on when the vehicle was produced?
  7. DAC/Crawl control

    Based on responses here and rereading the manual, looks like my above statement is incorrect. I don't want to say much more since I'm still new at this stuff. But, it looks like "Crawl" requires 4L (end of pg 415 in the manual), and "DAC" requires 4H (top of pg 420). I only used the system going...
  8. DAC/Crawl control

    Empirically DAC definitely worked in 4L. Not sure what would have happened if I enabled it in 4H. As I said, I found the instructions confusing. Going down, the DAC worked great. For that road, employing Crawl going up didn't seem useful, but maybe I should have tried it for experimentation.
  9. DAC/Crawl control

    Just finished first serious 4wd experience in 6th gen off-road. In SW Colorado, took Nellie Creek road from 9.3K feet to Uncompahgre peak trailhead at 11.4K feet. Not sure the linear distance, but I'll guess maybe 6 steep miles. Found the DAC/Crawl control instructions in the manual to be...
  10. Towing a trailer with new 4Runner Hybrid - minimum miles required on odometer?

    Page 190 of my 2025 4runner owner manual recommends: "For the first 500 miles: Do not tow a trailer." That page also lists some other recommendations for what to avoid when the vehicle has low miles.
  11. Rough Shifting and Power

    16.5 mpg sounds kind of low. I'll generally get 22-24 over flat terrain. I do use ethanol-free gas, which as I understand gives better mileage due to higher energy density than the ethanol stuff. I've also found mileage decreases substantially going over 70mph on the hiway.
  12. Rough Shifting and Power

    Extra good mileage came from buying gas at 9000 feet elevation, resetting, then driving home 30 miles away at 6000 feet.
  13. Rough Shifting and Power

    I have found that the car seems to want to avoid downshifting (e.g. when going uphill) by using the electric motor to assist the gas engine while staying in whatever higher gear it's currently in. It'll give up and downshift if/when high electric power isn't sufficient, which can result in...
  14. New tire options after sidewall puncture on Trailhunter.

    Awesome! Thanks so much for the detailed info!
  15. New tire options after sidewall puncture on Trailhunter.

    My first comment is I love your ADORABLE corgi pic! Second comment/question is my 2025 Offroad came with Michelin "LTX Trail" tires (see attached pic). Does anyone know if these have sidewall reinforcement? Apologies, I am completely ignorant about how to read tire specs. I don't know how to...
  16. Sufficient Power In the 2025 Gas Motor?

    Absolutely agree with all of this. My experience has been identical. Just wish the battery was maybe twice as big, and the electric motor twice as strong. But of course that would impact both weight and cost.
  17. Sufficient Power In the 2025 Gas Motor?

    Note to readers: I've deleted my recent responses to ModernDay4Runner in this thread. I found myself getting snarky in response to his snark. Both have no place in a friendly forum. Apologies.
  18. Sufficient Power In the 2025 Gas Motor?

    You could be more clear by identifying which of your statements refer to gas-only vehicle vs. which refer to hybrid. And I have no idea what you mean by "what you're hearing is the air moving through the engine". Yes I assumed when my hybrid "turns the engine off" and reported rpms go to zero...
  19. Sufficient Power In the 2025 Gas Motor?

    Idling at a stop light burns gas so negatively impacts mileage. Even better for the hybrid, turning the engine off going downhill doesn't incur engine drag so is even better than putting the transmission in neutral (no engine drag plus no fuel burn).
  20. Using other dealers posted discounts to negotiate

    Mine came with the all-weather floor mats ($199) and all-weather cargo mat ($130). The standard felt mats also came with the vehicle (wrapped in plastic). The all-weather mats are great and I expect them to last "forever", unlike felt mats.



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