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I've owned a Wrangler Unlimited (2012 JKU) and traded a 2022 Gladiator Mojave for a zero option, 2025 4Runner SR5 2WD.

My Gladiator was great in a lot of ways, but the transmission bricked my car a little over a year ago, then again 3 weeks ago, and then again this past Wednesday afternoon.

I'd gotten it back from them Wednesday morning.

In addition, the warranty is out next week. When it died 3 weeks ago, I started researching what to get next in case I felt like that was necessary. I pretty quickly settled on a new 4Runner, which as we all know means waiting months. I was offered the chance to reserve one, but the wait was going to be 4+ months according to the sales guy. When the Gladiator died again, I knew waiting that long could be a very expensive idea.

So, I drove my loaner Ram 1500 to the Toyota dealer to see if a used something or a new Tacoma could do the job. With two kids and a dog, I was hoping for an SUV for trip reasons. I parked near the Tacomas and walked towards one. The salesman said hi behind me, I turned around, and there she was: a 2025 Ice Cap SR5.

I assumed it would be sold already, so I just asked if I could buy it and he said it was available and had just arrived on the truck 2 hours prior! I told him I'd buy it, but I wanted to test drive it first just in case.

When I had it all wrapped up but the signatures, the Jeep dealer called and told me my Gladiator was ready to go so I negotiated a trade on that (and got more than Carvana's likely fake offer, when accounting for tax savings). I then drove the Toyota sales guy in the loaner Ram to the Jeep dealer to pick up my Gladiator. They low-balled me at the Jeep dealer (shocking I know), I laughed and said no thanks. Then we drove the Jeep to Toyota and I took the 4Runner home.

It was a great buying experience. They never tried to add any costs to me whatsoever. Zero markup, zero extended warranty, etc.

As for reviewing, it handles like a sports car compared to the Gladiator and my wife's Suburban. Before the Gladiator I had a Tesla Model Y, and before that a BMW 328i. The BMW is amazing to drive, obviously, but I think this handles as well as the Y if you account for it riding a little higher. The Gladiator Mojave is smoother, but the Fox shocks will do that for you. I averaged about 16 mpg in a stock Mojave, and so far I've been between 19.5 and 22.5. I think I'll end up a little over 20 mpg in daily driving. That's a welcome change, even if it isn't a Prius.

I did give up 4WD. That's my only complaint. They should only make these with 4WD, but I bought what they had when they shouldn't have had it, and I hope to send my son to college in this vehicle in 5.5 years.

I can't exactly explain it, but you can tell the vehicle is built to higher standards than the Jeep. I know that won't surprise Toyota fans, but it's clearly evident. The tolerances are tighter for every piece, inside and out. It feels more solid, although to be fair the Gladiator is purposely not solid with it's removable roof and doors.

As for the tech, I have Autopilot again without the Tesla. I've already let it drive me hands free down the highway (while ready to take over because I'm not an idiot). Is it the best off-road? No. Is it the best on-road? No. Does it have the best technology? No.

Is it the best marriage or all of those things, with a sticker of $42k before GST adds their stuff? Yes, without a doubt.

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I tried to upload pictures you might not find everywhere else. You can see the grab handle for the passenger that's on the A pillar in one of the pictures, for example.

If you have any questions or want to see something, let me know.
 

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What a story! And congrats on your first 4Runner ? Sounds like this was meant to be, with seeing it 2 hours after it landed at the dealership and still being available.

Is it going to be your daily driver or more specific uses?
 

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I think you’re the first to get a 2WD 6th gen here! Congrats on the car and the excellent MSRP. Almost 7 grand lower than what I paid for my SR5 and I also paid MSRP (more port installed accessories and 4WD) Enjoy it!
 
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What a story! And congrats on your first 4Runner ? Sounds like this was meant to be, with seeing it 2 hours after it landed at the dealership and still being available.

Is it going to be your daily driver or more specific uses?
Meant to be is certainly how I'd word it as well!

It's going to be my daily driver. The current plan is to drive it for 5 years and then give it to my son when he goes to college so he has something reliable to begin adulthood with, while I didn't have that scenario.

It'll probably have 65k miles or so at that point, so he'll be able to drive it for a long time. I genuinely love it so far, and while I realize I've barely owned it the things I love are permanent characteristics. I may tire of manual AC, but oh well. That and 4WD are the only things I truly wish I had on the vehicle.
 
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I think you’re the first to get a 2WD 6th gen here! Congrats on the car and the excellent MSRP. Almost 7 grand lower than what I paid for my SR5 and I also paid MSRP (more port installed accessories and 4WD) Enjoy it!
Hah! That's pretty cool!

Congrats on yours, too. I do wish I had 4WD but if I'm being honest with myself I don't need it. It might limit what I'd do at the beach, but that's not a big deal. My next one will have it, though...now to get the wife to want one...
 

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I've owned a Wrangler Unlimited (2012 JKU) and traded a 2022 Gladiator Mojave for a zero option, 2025 4Runner SR5 2WD.

My Gladiator was great in a lot of ways, but the transmission bricked my car a little over a year ago, then again 3 weeks ago, and then again this past Wednesday afternoon.

I'd gotten it back from them Wednesday morning.

In addition, the warranty is out next week. When it died 3 weeks ago, I started researching what to get next in case I felt like that was necessary. I pretty quickly settled on a new 4Runner, which as we all know means waiting months. I was offered the chance to reserve one, but the wait was going to be 4+ months according to the sales guy. When the Gladiator died again, I knew waiting that long could be a very expensive idea.

So, I drove my loaner Ram 1500 to the Toyota dealer to see if a used something or a new Tacoma could do the job. With two kids and a dog, I was hoping for an SUV for trip reasons. I parked near the Tacomas and walked towards one. The salesman said hi behind me, I turned around, and there she was: a 2025 Ice Cap SR5.

I assumed it would be sold already, so I just asked if I could buy it and he said it was available and had just arrived on the truck 2 hours prior! I told him I'd buy it, but I wanted to test drive it first just in case.

When I had it all wrapped up but the signatures, the Jeep dealer called and told me my Gladiator was ready to go so I negotiated a trade on that (and got more than Carvana's likely fake offer, when accounting for tax savings). I then drove the Toyota sales guy in the loaner Ram to the Jeep dealer to pick up my Gladiator. They low-balled me at the Jeep dealer (shocking I know), I laughed and said no thanks. Then we drove the Jeep to Toyota and I took the 4Runner home.

It was a great buying experience. They never tried to add any costs to me whatsoever. Zero markup, zero extended warranty, etc.

As for reviewing, it handles like a sports car compared to the Gladiator and my wife's Suburban. Before the Gladiator I had a Tesla Model Y, and before that a BMW 328i. The BMW is amazing to drive, obviously, but I think this handles as well as the Y if you account for it riding a little higher. The Gladiator Mojave is smoother, but the Fox shocks will do that for you. I averaged about 16 mpg in a stock Mojave, and so far I've been between 19.5 and 22.5. I think I'll end up a little over 20 mpg in daily driving. That's a welcome change, even if it isn't a Prius.

I did give up 4WD. That's my only complaint. They should only make these with 4WD, but I bought what they had when they shouldn't have had it, and I hope to send my son to college in this vehicle in 5.5 years.

I can't exactly explain it, but you can tell the vehicle is built to higher standards than the Jeep. I know that won't surprise Toyota fans, but it's clearly evident. The tolerances are tighter for every piece, inside and out. It feels more solid, although to be fair the Gladiator is purposely not solid with it's removable roof and doors.

As for the tech, I have Autopilot again without the Tesla. I've already let it drive me hands free down the highway (while ready to take over because I'm not an idiot). Is it the best off-road? No. Is it the best on-road? No. Does it have the best technology? No.

Is it the best marriage or all of those things, with a sticker of $42k before GST adds their stuff? Yes, without a doubt.

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Is that like 3k of useless add ons?
 

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Meant to be is certainly how I'd word it as well!

It's going to be my daily driver. The current plan is to drive it for 5 years and then give it to my son when he goes to college so he has something reliable to begin adulthood with, while I didn't have that scenario.

It'll probably have 65k miles or so at that point, so he'll be able to drive it for a long time. I genuinely love it so far, and while I realize I've barely owned it the things I love are permanent characteristics. I may tire of manual AC, but oh well. That and 4WD are the only things I truly wish I had on the vehicle.
What a lucky purchasing experience just walking onto the lot and finding one like that with no price mark up. Yea there were some dealer add-ons but let's be real which 4Runners don't have that this early on in the game.

Was your Gladiator modified? Any mods plans for your 4Runner? Any trip / outdoor / offroad uses for the 4Runner?
 

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What a lucky purchasing experience just walking onto the lot and finding one like that with no price mark up. Yea there were some dealer add-ons but let's be real which 4Runners don't have that this early on in the game.

Was your Gladiator modified? Any mods plans for your 4Runner? Any trip / outdoor / offroad uses for the 4Runner?

The add ons are the markup. They're overpriced crap.
 
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What a lucky purchasing experience just walking onto the lot and finding one like that with no price mark up. Yea there were some dealer add-ons but let's be real which 4Runners don't have that this early on in the game.

Was your Gladiator modified? Any mods plans for your 4Runner? Any trip / outdoor / offroad uses for the 4Runner?

The Gladiator was stock apart from a BAK 4S (I think that's exact name) hard rolling cover, sound deadening on the roof, and a headliner I installed when I got the truck.

Currently I'm not planning any mods, but that doesn't mean none will happen. I won't make any that significantly impact the road driving experience. I'd love to use it for camping, but the wife isn't a fan of the idea. Maybe I can convince her at some point.

My uncle has a ranch and I frequent some areas with dirt roads that aren't always in great shape, so I'll use it off road but not to its true capability. My next one could be a different story. The plan is to send my son to college with this one in 5 years.
 
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This should answer everything and then some, I think. It appears the payload capacity is only 895 lb minus the 66 lbs of mandatories (they're not optional) for a net total of 829 lbs.

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This should answer everything and then some, I think. It appears the payload capacity is only 895 lb minus the 66 lbs of mandatories (they're not optional) for a net total of 829 lbs.

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Thank you for doing that! What’s weird is Toyota‘s website because they have GVWR as 6005lbs and curb weight as 4455lbs . Subtracting those two numbers gives you a payload rating of 1550lbs. That’s not what’s on the sticker which is confusing.
 
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Thank you for doing that! What’s weird is Toyota‘s website because they have GVWR as 6005lbs and curb weight as 4455lbs . Subtracting those two numbers gives you a payload rating of 1550lbs. That’s not what’s on the sticker which is confusing.
Yep. Before buying I'd read that exact number and I expected it to be at least that but maybe slightly more as I wasn't sure what trim I'd seen that number for, but for whatever reason it's far lower.

It wouldn't have affected my decision, but it's strange.
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