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That TRD pro looks lifted. The Trailhunter is supposed to have 10.1 inch clearance. The old TRD pro I think was also 10 inch or maybe 10.5. But on the pic it look like the old trd pro sits 2 inches higher.

Just want to add the one of the limiting factors of wading depth is the rear axle vent opening. There are usually aftermarket solutions to raise that. But even then some other part becomes the limiting factor. I doubt you can easily increase the wading depth on a modern car.

I looked at the land cruiser and test drove a few. I absolutely loved them. I assume the 4Runner is going to be very similar. I decided to wait on the LC due to the limited choices and idiotic markups. And right now you might even get rebates on good trims with premium packages. The same will...

Does anybody know if the snorkel can be removed easily and put back when needed? Has anybody seen that for the Taco Trailhunter?

Great pics! looks like ripping off the air dam brings the TRD off-road to almost the same ground clearance and approach angle. Not perfect but certainly good enough.

Is the increased ground clearance and approach angle of the TRD Pro / Trailhunter because of the plastic air dam at the front of the TRD Off Road? If that's the only difference then that should be an easy fix.

I think the trailhunter and TRD pro also have 10.1" ground clearance. The TRD off-road I think is 9.1". That could of course also that plastic air dam in the front. Would also explain the approach angle differences. This plastic part is likely easily removable by hand or by going over a curb.

One major issue with the Honda is the weird situation with the full size spare wheel upright in the cargo area. Not a fan of that as you lose 30% of your cargo area to the spare and no way to fit in mountain bikes. I would most likely remove the current load floor put the spare flat down as low...

Trailhunter for light off roading and light overlanding. I could go with a TRD off road and build it up a bit. But then the price difference to the trailhunter is only ~5-7k . And since I'm not the do it yourself car mechanic type I think it's in the long run much cheaper to have the Trailhunter...

LOL yes, you're right. Didn't even occur to me at that point that the off road models exceed the prices of the "luxury" models by far. We need new words for luxury trims that are off road focussed and luxury trims that are focussed on comfortable, convenience, high end design elements.

It seems that Toyota decided to offer full time AWD with a center diff only in the luxury oriented trims, the limited and the platinum. A lot of customers either want a cheaper trim (like the SR5) or more off road oriented trims like the TRD off road or TRD pro. These trims do not offer the...

The lack of a center diff like the land cruiser has is the only reason why I'm still hesitant to get the 4Runner. The limited and platinum are not really an option because if I want luxury trim I would prefer the land cruiser. I want more ground clearance and a bit more off road capabilities...

When the TRD off road is out and people start modifying it we will see if the mounting points for the third row are present in the TRD off road. I assume they are there as even the cupholders are there. Then it will be only a short time until you can buy the third row seat and seatbelts...

There are a few weird things in the list. The Trailhunter is listed with standard "Frame-mounted stelrockrails" but on the Toyota website it looks like a $990 option. What is the situation there?

I expected the trailhunter to be around 73k based on the Landcruiser first edition being 76k. The Landcruiser has full time AWD and rock rails as the only real advantages over the Trailhunter. the trailhunter has better suspension, more ground clearance, light bar and a funny snorkel. The rest...

For me it would be a trail hunter without anything else. If available I would like add a moonroof and full time AWD. Out there isn't anything I would add from the factory. $68 400 MSRP with no extras added. I'm only confused because they offer rock rails and I thought they are standard on the...

I can't care less about the sound or feel of the engine. It's just a tool that drives the thing. Other features impact me directly: good head lights, ground clearance, suspension quality,internal storage, seat quality.... I'd rather have them spend the money there than on an engine I don't need...

I hope you are right and a well spec’d 4Runner is 10k less than a LC. I’m however doubtful. The LC is 61-67k depending what you select. I assume a TRD pro or Trailhunter will be the same or more. A TRD off-road with extras that make it similar to a LC will be 60ish looking at Taco prices. At...

For me the full time AWD could be the main reason to go with the LC. I’m in the northeast so streets with snow covered and clear pavement are frequent. Off roading at trails worse than bad dirt roads is rare. All time 4WD is more useful here. It will depend on price though. If a well equipped...

I’m leaning more and more to a Land Cruiser. It’s about 67k in the version I want and has permanent awd. I don’t think a 4Runner is much cheaper in the version I would choose.