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  1. '25 4Runner versus '25 Wrangler for long roadtrips and offroading

    I test drove a Bronco today and took it out on an Interstate. It was definetly noisy - mostly wind noise and a bit of the hum of the 35" tires. It wouldn't be a dealbreaker, but it is one of the things that's keeping me leaning toward the 4Runner. I might circle back to Jeep (or Bronco) for my...
  2. '25 4Runner versus '25 Wrangler for long roadtrips and offroading

    I believe they're fulltime 4WD, but they have a center diff lock. You can also get the SDM as an option. If I wanted the hybrid I would be looking at these closer, but then I would be looking at the 4Runner Trailhunter too. I don't think you can get SDM on a non hybrid.
  3. '25 4Runner versus '25 Wrangler for long roadtrips and offroading

    I've come close to test driving one, but they kind of fell off my radar. I was pretty settled on the 4Runner, but able to get a Rubicon X priced close to the 4Runner ORP we have reserved so I have to consider it. I might wander into the Ford dealership just to check out the Broncos. Couldn't...
  4. '25 4Runner versus '25 Wrangler for long roadtrips and offroading

    I've seen a lot of folks comment about the part-time four-wheel drive being an issue in ice and snow. I had full-time 4WD in my 4th gen 4Runner which was nice, but I'm driving a truck now where I have to "manually" switch back and forth between 2H and 4H (just a button I push). I'm pretty used...
  5. '25 4Runner versus '25 Wrangler for long roadtrips and offroading

    I'm buying a new vehicle specifically with the purpose of long road trips (several days to weeks) to destination with off-road trails. My conclusion was that a '25 4Runner (Off-Road Premium trim) would be better for this purpose. However, I test drove a '25 Wrangler (Rubicon X) trim at a...
  6. Road noise?

    For people that have already purchased your '25 4Runners, what do you think about your 4Runner's cabin noise level on the freeway? Are these loud or quiet to you? What vehicles are you comparing it to? I test drove a '25 4Runner but didn't take it out on the freeway and only had it up to higher...
  7. Headroom in backseat with moonroof?

    I test drove a '25 4Runner Sport Premium without a moonroof before reserving an Off-Road Premium with a moonroof (you're limited what they give you in test drive availability and 4Runners available to reserve right now). The 4Runner I test drove did not have a moonroof, and I have since read...
  8. How-to: Track delivery status (from dealer provided spec sheet link)

    I just saw the ETA window slide to the right a few days using this method. So at least I now know this information does update.
  9. $4,000 Discount Already on TRD Off Road Premium

    Message to future googler: if you just searched for your VIN JTEVA5BR3S5002290 and you see this old forum thread, let us know what you paid for your vehicle. Was it $53,843? If so, we are all very jealous.
  10. $4,000 Discount Already on TRD Off Road Premium

    In the meantime they generate all sorts of interest from posts like this and people sending their information to the dealership to see if it's still available. Then they have your contact information and know you're in the market to buy a vehicle. I really wish there was a way to just order...
  11. How-to: Track delivery status (from dealer provided spec sheet link)

    So, I don't think the method I posted to get status is very useful. Or at least it doesn't update as often as the info the dealer gets. I just go one of those nifty screenshots from my dealer that everyone else has been getting. My 4Runner departed Long Beach on a train last Friday and was...
  12. Is the Premium trim (TRD Sport) worth the price?!

    I thought the interior was supposed to be nicer too - could be wrong.
  13. Is the Premium trim (TRD Sport) worth the price?!

    "worth the price" is pretty relative to what you like, but I'll tell you my perspective. I test drove a Sport Premium, which helped to decide to go ahead and get the premium trim (I'm getting an Off-Road Premium). My wife liked a lot of the creature comforts stuff, but I wouldn't have paid the...
  14. Pricing over the years (not definitive)

    I figured some of differences would be related to the different generations, but I wasn't aware of the "refreshes" and other changes. Sorry to hose up the table! The most interesting thing to me is seeing the inflation effect year to year and then comparing to actual changes, but it's all...
  15. Pricing over the years (not definitive)

    It's hard to tell how the proposed tariffs will effect Japanese imports... but yes, it's crossed my mind a few time. A significant price increase right now would mean I would wait on purchasing a new 4Runner. I'm fine with the current prices, but adding another $10K+ would be a dealbreaker for...
  16. Pricing over the years (not definitive)

    There was a mistake in the calculation of the last column which has been updated and corrected in the image. The previous image factored in actual cost changes while the intention was to baseline on the year 2004 and increase by inflation every year thereafter, which it now does (updated)...
  17. Pricing over the years (not definitive)

    Looking at these numbers since 2004, the price increases are not terrible IMO. I know I'm in the minority and there's plenty of people that think a $60K 4Runner marks the end of times, but it looks like there's at least a few other people buying these things ;). There's also been significant...
  18. Pricing over the years (not definitive)

    It would be interesting to show how this compares with national inflation numbers
  19. Mods to go from a TRD OR or ORP to a TRD Pro look?

    This is helpful for comparison: https://www.toyota.com/4runner/features/mpg_other_price/8672/8636/8634 (See exterior section) This is useful because it also gives a more practical idea of what upgrades to consider on the ORP by looking at what comes standard on the Trailhunter and Pro. You...
  20. Mods to go from a TRD OR or ORP to a TRD Pro look?

    I posted pics in my previous comments to compare the two in Underground. Thing's I notice: Grill. The ORP has the smaller Toyota logo while the Trailhunter has the larger "Toyota" letters. Trailhunter has another light between the foglights (maybe just different color paint)? I think the...



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