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  1. Using other dealers posted discounts to negotiate

    Depends where you are. Down in Texas they’re actually starting to pile up on dealer lots. Several dealerships around here taking 3-5K off MSRP before even negotiating on price. They all have the typical overpriced PIO junk to varying degrees but the discount off MSRP pretty much negates most...
  2. Almost got caught in a Bait & Switch at a Wisconsin Dealership

    Everyone that had good experiences got 4Runners that are not as sought after. The OP was trying to secure the elusive TRD Pro for a completely new generation. Dealers love to play games with those. They did this when the new Tacomas rolled out especially TRD Pro’s. ā€Oh they’re rare, we’re...
  3. Will dealer remove side steps and add Toyota Rock Sliders on TRD Off-Road Premium?

    ^^^^^^^What he said. They’ll gladly change them out after you pay for the new part and labor.
  4. Order Codes : 8672 vs 8672A

    I’m not sure but it sounds like the A designation means base in Toyota language. If you want the TRD OR Premium, it sounds like you want the designation without the A. If you’re okay with cloth seats and the smaller infotainment screen, then you should be fine with what they have coming in...
  5. Port install options (PIO) a cash grab!!

    To me it has nothing to do with whether I should be buying the vehicle. I ā€financeā€ to get a better OTD price and then pay it off the following month. The problem is distributors like GST that add thousands of PIO’s that I didn’t select and don’t want and am forced to take. That’s the...
  6. Mudbath TRD Pro - Anyone waiting for these to drop on lots instead of deposit with intent to purchase?

    It’s always a bit of a gamble with the color of the year model TRD Pro’s honestly. I thought Terra looked absolutely gorgeous on the 5th gen last year, but I saw more than one just sitting on local dealer lots as late as September/October last year unspoken for. Obviously they eventually sold...
  7. 4Runners spotted at dealerships-not ordered.

    Let’s just say MSRP or below without dealer markups. Dealer invoice deals can probably be had with non iforce max models and non TRD Pro/Trailhunters. Look at the current levels of inventory and discounts available on multiple trims of the Tacoma for what you can expect to see once the...
  8. 4Runners spotted at dealerships-not ordered.

    Patience is key. TRD Jon even advised people to wait for about 6 months or so if they don’t absolutely have to be the first to get one. Early adopters of any new highly anticipated model always get gouged especially when itā€˜s a Toyota truck. I am on team wait because I already drive a 5th Gen...
  9. Moving Up Trim Levels is Poor Value

    No doubt. I am as well. I will say it’s very market to market dependent on whether dealers charge ADM’s. I’m sure Trailhunter and TRD Pro’s will be marked up for awhile. I’m more talking about the mid to lower trims that will eventually be selling below MSRP, it may take until the end of the...
  10. Moving Up Trim Levels is Poor Value

    Yes, zero chance. The Tacoma was the hottest selling midsize pickup of all time. The Gen 4 was highly anticipated. The dealerships got greedy and did markups. They sat and now you can have your pick of any trim outside of Trailhunter and TRD Pro that you want for thousands off MSRP. I...
  11. Allocations for 2025 4Runner are here! Delivery begins early February 2025

    I’ll be honest. The closer the 6th Gens get to hitting dealer lots, the more smitten and sentimental I get with my fully paid for 5th Gen. It’s technically my daily, but I really only drive it to the Airport and back once a week for work and that’s about it. I’m going to be patient and wait...
  12. Will the proposed tariffs increase the price?

    I don’t think they will have an immediate impact on pricing. A lot of the tariff talk is a negotiation with other countries to get more favorable trade deals while encouraging manufacturers to bring manufacturing back to the US. I’m also looking to buy the new model next year and am going to...
  13. The New 4Runner's Pricing: A Closer Look

    Despite the complaints on pricing and I’m right there with you all. I think that Toyota is offering a lot of value with the upper trims compared to building these up in the aftermarket. I also believe that these new gen 4Runners will hold their value in the used market over time just as the...
  14. 2025 4Runner Price Release! MSRP & Options Pricing for all trim levels, gas & hybrid models (6th Gen)

    Interesting that the Trailhunter and the TRD Pro are the same price. I’ve got some thinking to do I guess.



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