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I don't think he's whining. I get it. My GF's BMW SUV feels so much better than my Jeep. You can feel it when the engine, transmission and car fit together. The BMW feels responsive and nimble and it is fun to drive. I was happy with the LC but I also don't care much about the engine, how it...

There was also a interesting comparison by "ben hardy" (youtube channel) who compared a previous 8cyl Landcruiser, the 6 cal Ineos Grenadier and the new Landcruiser 4cyl Hybrid. He mainly criticizes that the LC needs to rev up quite a bit while the other two vehicles had a much wider power band...

wow I love that color. if I end up getting a TRD off road then my color choices would be red>cutting edge>everest>blue. Unfortunately the two best colors are not offered on the trailhunter. will be interesting to see how the market develops in the next three month. I would assume that by then...

The TRD off road premium that TN Vols posted has actually only ~700 dollar in BS additions. The rest (Moonroof, Tow tech package, door edge guards and Mudguards) are either essential or at least useful enough. But yes, if you don't want any of those you will have to wait quite some time until...

Did you switch them into sport mode or was it eco mode? I have test driven a few and found them ok. Not as sporty as a BMW X1 or X3 but quite good for a vehicle of that size and on par with most SUV's of that size unless you go for a M50 or such. I actually liked very much how it drives. I can't...

I wouldn't need or want the snorkel and would actually try to remove it if possible. The snorkel does nothing for crossing water. The only real scenario that I heard where the raised air intake would make sense is driving with friends in a convoy across sandy dusty deserts. The snorkel would...

Looks absolutely stunningly good. I was wondering about that color for a while but couldn't find good pictures. In your pics it looks fantastic. I'm oscillating between a Landcruiser premium, a TRD off road premium non-hybrid, and a Trailhunter. All of them have something going for them. For...

Yeah I also like a rear wheel drive feel. However when I have my girlfriend or other people drive the car they won’t know or care that the 4high is binding on paved roads. The full time AWD seems the better option in those cases.

I have this maybe naive hope that the 4Runner will drive down LC prices. I hope that up go 10% discounts are possible when a lot of people decide to get a 4Runner over a LC. I would normally also prefer a 4Runner if it had a full time AWD in the off road trims. If I want Full time AWD I have to...

When I was test driving LC's last year in August at several dealerships only one dealership actually had MSRP pricing and even then only for 1958's. All other dealers insisted on Markups between 3k and 5k plus dealer added features. They rather had me walk away than lowering the price. At that...

I can only imagine how much a rip off the service at this dealer will be. If they have no shame price gouging by almost 20% then I don't believe they will give you fair quotes on repairs. I would also not expect them to be fair on issues with their service. Buyer beware.

Of course the premium options are highly profitable for Toyota. We will see that in a year or so when the market is more saturated and instead of MSRP you can get $3k off. The 3k are from the profits on the $6k that the TRD off road premium costs. That gives the customer the strategy: buy now...

The TRD off road premium costs $5780 more than the TRD off road. That gives you: the option to buy a moonroof for another $850 :eek: handsfree power liftgate SofTex®-trimmed heated and ventilated front seats; 8-way power-adjustable Heated steering wheel Auto-dimming day/night rearview mirror...

I’m confused about the front skid plate. The holes in the front and the big gap seem to shovel lots of gravel and sand into the area between oil pan and skid plate when you happen to drive into deep soft sand. Jeep had the same problem in 2014 and changed the skid plate design in 2015. I had...

Wow great. Thanks! I would assume that some shop will come out with a kit that makes this even easier with a bracket for the speaker and a solution for the fascia points.

That TRD pro looks lifted. The Trailhunter is supposed to have 10.1 inch clearance. The old TRD pro I think was also 10 inch or maybe 10.5. But on the pic it look like the old trd pro sits 2 inches higher.

Just want to add the one of the limiting factors of wading depth is the rear axle vent opening. There are usually aftermarket solutions to raise that. But even then some other part becomes the limiting factor. I doubt you can easily increase the wading depth on a modern car.

I looked at the land cruiser and test drove a few. I absolutely loved them. I assume the 4Runner is going to be very similar. I decided to wait on the LC due to the limited choices and idiotic markups. And right now you might even get rebates on good trims with premium packages. The same will...

Does anybody know if the snorkel can be removed easily and put back when needed? Has anybody seen that for the Taco Trailhunter?

Great pics! looks like ripping off the air dam brings the TRD off-road to almost the same ground clearance and approach angle. Not perfect but certainly good enough.