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  1. Allocations for 2025 4Runner are here! Delivery begins early February 2025

    Scarcity effects the monetary value individuals place on goods and services. The consumer/buyer, not the dealer, actually has all the power since they decide when to spend their money. If they do not want the add-ons, they don't buy the vehicle. Discipline, as you stated, is the key. I could...
  2. No Markup / No ADM Dealers @ MSRP Price for 2025 - 2026 4Runner 6th Gen - List Them

    Well Said Ike582, I think you perfectly summarized my thoughts on the matter. And Visually Oriented, you can be right as well, perhaps in 9 months haggling will be possible. I get it.
  3. No Markup / No ADM Dealers @ MSRP Price for 2025 - 2026 4Runner 6th Gen - List Them

    Just curious, why do you think they will NOT be flying outa showrooms but yet you plan to buy one. Are you saying you like it, the 6th gen, but not that much and if you can wait and save $1-$2K, you will do that? Again, just curious to your thoughts. Myself, I am thinking they will be flying out...
  4. 2025 4Runner Order | Pre-Order | Deposit | Reservation | Waitlist -- List & Stats

    Thanks for the info. I sent my preference to a handful of dealerships near me. A few said they will keep an eye out for an allocation that match what I was looking for and if they saw one, they would contact me. One dealership said I would need to put down a non-refundable deposit or I it would...
  5. 2025 4Runner Order | Pre-Order | Deposit | Reservation | Waitlist -- List & Stats

    I have a question. Since dealerships have yet to receive allocations, wouldn't providing a deposit to a dealership result with you being locked into purchasing one of whatever allocation they do end up receiving (which may not be your exact preference) or you forego your deposit and buy from a...
  6. Key Fob / Slim Credit Card Key Fob - Photos

    Debbie Downer waaaa waaaaaa. Just kidding. Don't get sensitive on us.
  7. Trailhunter 2025 4Runner 6th Gen spotted @ gas station (Everest color)

    I am 60 years old and have owned numerous V8s. I owned cars with aftermarket performance camshafts and long-tube headers and loud mufflers. I know a little bit about sounds that car can make. The cacophony of noises you refer to (nice word BTW - cacophony) on the T'4, I will have to experience...
  8. Trailhunter 2025 4Runner 6th Gen spotted @ gas station (Everest color)

    I am happy with the improvements this engine provides over the 5th gen engine, so, to answer your question, "no," I would not want to pay more money for a twin-turbo six. Two more cylinders is just not as important to me. I focus on the output or the results, not the count or size. This new...
  9. Trailhunter 2025 4Runner 6th Gen spotted @ gas station (Everest color)

    It seems that some people cannot accept change or might be a bit insecure about themselves as it relates to the size of their motor, or a little bit of both. If the old 4Runner had 100 cylinders and through technological advances, the geniuses in the motor laboratory created an engine with only...
  10. Trailhunter 2025 4Runner 6th Gen spotted @ gas station (Everest color)

    A 4 banger with more HP and torque than the 5th gen 6 cylinder.



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